Random Insanity Alliance Forum, Mark V
Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: Kenneth Kenstar on October 06, 2010, 02:40:20 pm
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My desktop
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The dock program is GLX-Dock (Cairo-Dock with OpenGL) and it acts like Windows 7's dock, the nerd stats is conky.
Ubuntu 10.04 is their latest LTS (Long Term Support) version, which pretty much means they'll keep updating it for three years (normal releases only get 18 months of support).
My opinion on Ubuntu?
After their 2006 LTS version, every single release after that was an unstable piece of shit. It took them another four years this release something that actually make me happy.
A default install of Ubuntu 10.04 is full of stupid shit like UbuntuOne which is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever seen probably. UbuntuOne is literally a Facebook/MySpace clone based around people using Ubuntu. Canonical, the company that sponsors the Ubuntu project, thought this was a good idea.
For some ungodly reason, they have removed the GNOME volume desktop applet and combined it's functions with the UbuntuOne applet.
HOW DO THESE TWO THINGS RELATE AT ALL? I thought Linux developers were a bunch of logical nerds.
It also includes Evolution which has some stupid alert process which is on all the time.
Here is a list of things I remove off the top of my head
- Any reference to UbuntuOne
- Evolution
- Firefox (Glorious Chrome Master Race)
- Totem and RhythmBox (mplayer and VLC for me...aka something that works)
Things I immediately install
- gcc (with the build-essential package)
- I compile mplayer because I don't trust Ubuntu packages for mplayer
- VLC (from packages)
- Glorious Chrome Web Browser
- Epiphany Web Browser (no idea why this or Chrome isn't default for Ubuntu anyway)
Overall, I am...
...very happy with this release.
My only real issues come from older Linux programs that don't know what to do with something that isn't ALSA and OSS. This is caused by Pulseaudio which is the Linux version of working sound because ALSA and OSS are such a piece of fucking shit. I am glad glorious Pulseaudio has replaced crap. Most of these issues are resolved by manually editing config files or killing Pulseaudio.
Pulseaudio can also do that neat Windows 7 thing where you can adjust the volume for separate programs. It literally just works.
Other than that, I have the most stable operating system I have ever used besides Windows 7.
So, anyway, since I've used Ubuntu on and off for about six years now, I can probably answer a lot of questions regarding it. Feel free to ask them, I'll take you seriously.
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sudo get me a sandwich bitch
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Maybe I can get my Ubuntu server working correctly again. It's stuck in some upgrade tard look where it supposedly had a partial install of a newer version, so it can't finish running updates. That and it keeps asking me what version I want to boot to, but which one works is not always consistent. I shut it down when I went on vacation in August and have not booted it back up since. It's only a backup server anyway, so there is nothing on it I don't have elsewhere. But it still pisses me off.
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Ubuntu Server is crapware.
If you want to use Ubuntu for a server, get a normal Ubuntu install and select the install method "Command Line System".
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I did install the regular version. It's basically just an Ubuntu desktop with the HD as a shared network drive.
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Oh, I see.
Yeah, I never trust the online distro update anymore either.
The next time you are feeling lucky, try this...
Boot the system into rescue mode with root prompt from an Ubuntu disc.
apt-get install update-manager-core
edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
do-release-upgrade
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I've been meaning to install 10.10 RC on a partition, I really don't like how slow windows 7 is. It's fast, sure, but compared to linux? It's night and day. I played with ubuntu a couple months ago and was astonished how fast it was. To be completely honest, I might just make Ubuntu my main install and W7 for games. Would this be a logical choice? I'm not a software noob obviously, but I just have been pretty damn lazy in making the switch.
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I've been meaning to install 10.10 RC on a partition, I really don't like how slow windows 7 is. It's fast, sure, but compared to linux? It's night and day. I played with ubuntu a couple months ago and was astonished how fast it was. To be completely honest, I might just make Ubuntu my main install and W7 for games. Would this be a logical choice? I'm not a software noob obviously, but I just have been pretty damn lazy in making the switch.
To me, RC for Ubuntu means Really Crap.
I can almost guarantee that 10.10 is going to be an unstable piece of shit until 11.04 is almost out.
I would start with 10.04 then later when it's actually released, go for 10.10. I honestly will probably play with 10.10 when the final release is out, but I am definitely not upgrading right away.
As far as the dual boot thing goes, that is exactly what I do. Windows 7 is for fun, Ubuntu for work. There are ways to share files between the two operating systems without issues nowadays.
Wine is pretty cool sometimes. Don't expect it to play any brand new computer games, but sometimes you just need to use a Windows program for whatever reason. Like MSPaint. There really isn't a legitimate MSPaint replacement on Linux. That stupid gpaint can go to hell and god do I love waiting a whole 20 seconds for GIMP to load.
I know you can play anything from Blizzard flawlessly on Linux.
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
Even StarCraft II.
(http://appdb.winehq.org/appimage.php?iId=28798)
Oh and that thing.
Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal
You can get them working just near perfectly, but it may take some effort.
By the way, more or less, Linux isn't going to make you happy if you are looking for speed or stability (as a desktop). Honestly, Windows 7 is pretty fucking stable for me. I've never had a single big issue with it. I use Ubuntu because I can get the job done faster with it.
Flash is going to crash your browser way more, by the way. But, hey, it probably won't take over your computer though.
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Pretty good summary of my feelings on ubuntu after a couple hours. It is fast as hell on startup and simplistic, it gets the job DONE for serious applications or email or communication or a dozen other niche IP's. However, for average PC use or gaming, I'm still going to stick to windows 7. Ubuntu seems redundant if all I'm going to do is music/talk/browse/watch movies since it's a little more complicated to install programs you want and it's also redundant since, as you said, windows 7 is very stable.
If any idiots are still using windows XP or something, they need to get their asses over to ubuntu imo. But until 11 or 12 comes out I think windows 7 is the better every-day OS choice.
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My girlfriend's Dad started spouting about how great his mac was the other day. I like the guy, but I almost clocked him so I could either take his 'working' mac, or to shut him up.
Ubuntu was good for me for the reasons C-Zom/Memento listed, but once I decided I was into things better than minesweeper, I dropped it for XP. Fuck I want windows 7, this vista shit is almost as bad as the training wheels Apple puts you in.
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Honestly, no Linux is going to replace Windows (at least not right now).
The reason you would run a Linux to surf the web, watch movies, watch TV shows, and other normal every day activities is because...
...you enjoy doing those things with Linux.
It may sound lame, but honestly that is what it is for most people.
I mean, you could mention that Ubuntu will automatically update all the programs you get through repositories, but the biggest factor is the enjoyment factor.
If you enjoy using a broken OS, you'll probably do a good job using it.
Same thing with the Mac honestly. If you enjoy using OS X, you will probably be able to use your computer better.
I honestly do not like using OS X that much, but I understand why people use it. I'm also not very fond of an OS I can't install on whatever computer I want without bullshit involved.
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Why are you such a faggot?
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sudo apt-get cake (http://rute.2038bug.com/key-enter.png)
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Why are you such a faggot?
Eddddddgggggggggey
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Oh, I see.
Yeah, I never trust the online distro update anymore either.
The next time you are feeling lucky, try this...
Boot the system into rescue mode with root prompt from an Ubuntu disc.
apt-get install update-manager-core
edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal
do-release-upgrade
Downloading now. Damn thing is going to take 2 hours, so I guess I won't be able to fuck with it until morning.
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wtf is Ubuntu...
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Upgrade seems to have gone perfectly. Pretty purple background. But now I am having a problem with my Samba share. I can putty to the machine, so I know it's on the network. I also recreated the share just to make sure, but I still cannot get to the share. Is there a better way to do it?
edit: Fixed it. For whatever reason, even though I recreated the share, it was not browseable. Then I had to actually reload and restart the smb.conf.
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Yeah, basically with Linux, you'll need to restart the proper daemon every time you edit a setting for it. I don't have much experience with Samba, but I imagine that might have something to do with it.
The next time you have problems with Samba, use either of the following
sudo restart smbd
sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
It's the "Ubuntu Way" to use the first command, but the second should work fine as well.
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Oh yeah, and if I haven't posted this before, if you are looking to install something for Linux, please do yourself a favor and Google for Ubuntu instructions.
Ubuntu really can be a pain in the ass in this aspect. There is almost always an "Ubuntu Way" to do something.
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Yeah, basically with Linux, you'll need to restart the proper daemon every time you edit a setting for it. I don't have much experience with Samba, but I imagine that might have something to do with it.
The next time you have problems with Samba, use either of the following
sudo restart smbd
sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
It's the "Ubuntu Way" to use the first command, but the second should work fine as well.
Yeah, I had tried that, but I needed to reload first. Just restarting didn't do it. But, even doing that, I had to manually modify the smb.conf file to allow the folder to be browsable (it was commented out). The GUI didn't have an option for that, though I have no fucking clue why. It has a writable and a visible option. The latter should have done it, but it didn't.
I don't really use the system for much other than backup. I tried using is for my PS3 media server, but the processor can't keep up. The min recommended is 1.7 GHz, which is exactly what it is (Celeron). It plays small stuff just fine, but if I try to stream a 720p BlueRay rip, it chokes like Leo on TS's cock. Of course, my XP laptop does the same thing (1.7 GHz Core2Duo).
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Do you have your desktop running?
See what your performance is like after killing your desktop.
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sudo stop gdm
That should just give you a black login screen. Should free up some CPU usage. Replace stop with start to bring it back up.
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sudo rm -rf /
do it damnit.
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Do you have your desktop running?
See what your performance is like after killing your desktop.
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sudo stop gdm
That should just give you a black login screen. Should free up some CPU usage. Replace stop with start to bring it back up.
Finally actually tried this. Killing the desktop killed the media server. I was able to restart the media server, but the PS3 said the data was corrupt, which means nothing really since it does that all the time unless things are perfect.
edit: After a reboot, I was able to get the media server working from the command line. But, it's still skippy. I guess I just need to break down and get a faster machine. Though I guess I still question if it's the processor or the wireless network.
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kenny: when will you make a subforum for game design
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There's a subforum for coding stuff, but only gov types can see it. It's mostly RI5 stuff but SS has some stuff there are about a game.
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There's a subforum for coding stuff, but only gov types can see it. It's mostly RI5 stuff but SS has some stuff there are about a game.
thanks, this does not help, since most of us aren't in Gov :lemonthirst: