Global internet outtage yesterday...

[Pterrydactyl]

Pretty sure the best thing to do is describe how it happened in an article so it can be duplicated.


http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/08/8698494-outage-knocked-out-internet-for-a-few-seconds

[undiscoveredbum]

Yep because anyone capable of pulling it off wouldn't already know how...

On a slightly related note, I recently learned that the NSA is capable of sifting through every bit of internet traffic in the country.

The more you know and whatnot

[Fake from State Jarm]

nothing to worry about, just skynet rehearsing for the big day december of next year

[Kenneth Kenstar]

Yep because anyone capable of pulling it off wouldn't already know how...

On a slightly related note, I recently learned that the NSA is capable of sifting through every bit of internet traffic in the country.

The more you know and whatnot

This is a curious statement.

[undiscoveredbum]

Yep because anyone capable of pulling it off wouldn't already know how...

On a slightly related note, I recently learned that the NSA is capable of sifting through every bit of internet traffic in the country.

The more you know and whatnot

This is a curious statement.

Through operations like this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

[Pterrydactyl]

How the... fucking wikileaks...

Anyway, while they can look through pretty much every bit of data, without context, it means nothing.  So anything encrypted at all is pretty safe, since they would need all the data to reconstruct it, and there's no way to tell what bits go with what since they can't tell what is missing from the file without decrypting it.  I'm probably explaining it badly, but thats sort of the gist of it.

so, if your torrenting from a p2p site that uses encryption at all, ain't no way in hell they are gonna prove anything unless they can get your computer, which they can't without a warrent, that they need evidence for, which they don't have.

Thats basically why they just give their "HEY, STOP TORRENTING" warnings, because there isn't jack-shit else they can do unless they catch you red-handed.

Now, if your torrenting from a site that is under FBI watch, even if it uses encryption your pretty fucked.


Again, probably not the best to explain this.  I understand why it's not as scary as people might want it to seem, but I can't really explain it.


I mean, if there was anything useful to be gotten through this, do you think the gov would trust it to ATT?

Not when they have rooms filled with minions who not only enjoy intercepting and decrypting data, but do it in their sleep.  The problem is that without context or complete files, the data is useless.

[Holy Ruler]

Pterrydactylhis, they will just filter for keywords, so it won't be hard to get the context.

[Brian]

few things about this... if you wern't already aware that the gov can look at everything you do online if they feel like it, i dont even know... you must be in your own little world or something... https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act you should check this out, all the government has to do is say they think you might be a terrorist and they could take you to Guantanamo forever. there is also no requirement that the government provide any proof whatsoever to back up their claim.

@Pterrydactyl a little somethen somethen about torrent encryption. it in no way is a condom for what you are doing. it isnt like ssl, it simply makes torrent traffic not look like torrent traffic.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/BitTorrent_protocol_encryption

Security

The estimated strength of the encryption corresponds to about 60–80 bits for common symmetrical ciphers[18]. Cryptographically, this effective keylength is quite low, but appropriate in that the protocol was not designed as a secure transport protocol but rather as a fast and efficient obfuscation method. AES was proposed as the encryption method but not adopted because it consumed too much CPU time and the required Diffie–Hellman keys to achieve a security equal to AES would have been much bigger or require elliptic curve cryptography, making the handshake more expensive in terms of used CPU time.

And as a side note to the above topic, you dont get busted by your ISP for torrenting, you get busted because your torrent client connects to a computer owned/controlled by the RIAA, MPAA, or other anti-piracy agency. which is why you use blocklists. such as peerblocker or protowall.  You also have the choice of using a vpn through SSl, there are a number of good ones designed just to protect torrenters.
https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-proxy-bittorrent-110618/
https://torrentfreak.com/make-bittorrent-transfers-anonymous-with-btguard-100419/


other then that, its just more reason to use addons like https everywhere for Firefox, im sure there is an equivalent for chrome for all you who suck Kenny's dick on a regular basis.

[Pterrydactyl]

Oh, I don't torrent, I just worked for a few weeks... <_<   >_>    somewhere... that intercepted net traffic from suspected terrorist forces and decrypted it.

[Pterrydactyl]

Yep because anyone capable of pulling it off wouldn't already know how...

Didn't see this before...

Actually, many people know how to do things like that, but show restraint.  However, if one teenage script-kiddy wanna-be sees that it's possible and decides to do it for some stupid reason, it makes everyone that knows how to do it but doesn't look bad.

I mean, imagine if someone from the part of anon that causes trouble actually knew what they were doing besides downloading low-orbit ion cannon for attacks.

[Brian]

>_> you just made my list Pterrydactyl

[Pterrydactyl]

Woot, thats another list i'm on!

So far, it's you and kenny

BTW, I wasn't talking about anyone here.  I was talking about the 13yo kids who use their parents computer and "pretend" they are having any effect on anything.

Just... so... everyone knows...

[Holy Ruler]

My Ego tells me Pterrydactylhis decrypted some of my packages.

Not the stimulus ones, btw.

[Pterrydactyl]

I didn't do decrypting, I analyzed the info once they had it finished.

[Holy Ruler]

So you analysed my packages .

[Pterrydactyl]

They were small, so it wasn't much work.

[Holy Ruler]

I am not referring to the hair on my balls.

[Gangs]

Sometimes, it's good to live in a third world country...