Random Insanity Alliance Forum, Mark V
Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: Kenneth Kenstar on February 15, 2011, 12:46:49 pm
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Mozilla literally believes there is no need for a 64 bit version of Firefox 4.0, so there are simply just not going to have one.
Literally.
In 2011, Mozilla can not fathom that a web browser might use more than 4 gigs of RAM.
These are the same guys that make FIREFOX by the way - they literally don't see the need for more RAM access to their program.
Does anyone else see the irony in this? Alt-Ctrl-Del and look at how much your Firefox is using if you are one of "those guys" who doesn't "get it".
Oh look speaking of Firefox 4.
(http://www.megaleecher.net/uploads/firefox-4-top-tabs.png)
Wow that looks really similar to
(http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/Google-Chrome.jpg)
Okay, so get me straight.
Instead of using Glorious Google Chrome, Firefox users are going to go out and update their bullshit browser to Imitation Chromium instead of just using the real deal. And I bet anything it's going to fucking suck because
1) It will still be slow and clunky as fuck
2) You'll need to restart the browser to install any extensions and themes
3) It will still have a memory leak.
I don't understand why Mozilla didn't just grab a build of Chromium and rebrand that.
Seriously. Why would anyone use Firefox at this point except out of being a sheep to Mozilla?
Even if you don't like Google and don't want to use the best web browser ever, you could at least switch to Chromium or even Opera.
Even Internet Explorer is a better browser than Firefox Now
Even Internet Explorer is a better browser than Firefox Now
Even Internet Explorer is a better browser than Firefox Now
Even Internet Explorer is a better browser than Firefox Now
Wanna see four styles of crap?
(http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mozilla-firefox-4.jpg)
So, this is basically Mozilla's take on Chrome's design. Okay.
WHY DO WE NEED TWO BOOKMARK BUTTONS
Does Mozilla think it's users are dumb? Because I do.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2009/12/firefox-4-theme-windows.jpg)
Every single one of these is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
Mozilla, we don't need ANY reminder of what browser we are using. I'm sure people will realize what they are using once it crashes.
Does this matter? YES it does.
The point of tabs on top is to make it easier to click your tabs. Do you know why it's easier with tabs on top? Because you just need to move your mouse straight up. You don't have to be accurate with this because the tabs are at the absolute top of the screen - you just move straight up.
So, not only has Mozilla completely missed the fucking point of tabs on top, it literally has to debate on which version of their logo to put up in the corner to take up that 1/4 inch of space which completely ruins the point of tabs on top.
[bounce]Mozilla literally thinks people like Glorious Google Chrome because it's minimalistic.[/bounce]
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I am I wrong in thinking firefox came first so couldnt have copied chrome? Just asking.
also you may be a google shill, cause IE is shitty. I use FF and my shit runs fine.
As far as FF users being dumb, thats just your opinion, and we all know opinions are like assholes.
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I am I wrong in thinking firefox came first so couldnt have copied chrome? Just asking.
This is literally what Firefox users believe.
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I am Shadow Slayer, and I endorse this message.
http://google.com/chrome (http://google.com/chrome)
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The funny thing is, Internet Explorer 9 is basically a huge ripoff of the design of Firefox 3.5 and they still managed to make a better browser.
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http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/features/ (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/features/)
LITERALLY NOTHING INNOVATIVE.
LITERALLY NOTHING CHROME DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE.
LIKE, FUCK MAN
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Fuck you, Kenny. While I do not enjoy that new style and prefer my current version of Firefox, my Firefox does things that my Chrome is too stupid to figure out, like actually deleting all cookies when I close the browser.
However, with that said, are we still up for lunch tomorrow?
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Fuck you, Kenny. While I do not enjoy that new style and prefer my current version of Firefox, my Firefox does things that my Chrome is too stupid to figure out, like actually deleting all cookies when I close the browser.
However, with that said, are we still up for lunch tomorrow?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/FKFINj1wLZs (http://www.youtube.com/embed/FKFINj1wLZs)
There is literally an entire mode for Glorious Google Chrome called Incognito Mode which doesn't even save cookies, period. It doesn't save anything. In fact, it's so good at not saving anything, it doesn't even let you reopen closed tabs. You can start Chrome in Incognito Mode every single time if you desire to.
And yes, I'm up for lunch, but you have to pay for it. I'm not a cheap date, either.
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Firefox users voted for Obamo.
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Who says I will be using 4 ? I can't stand chrome alone the looks of it(and the creepy google information kraken)
I have ff 3.6 and I am fine with it (linux ubuntu (mint) version)
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Who says I will be using 4 ? I can't stand chrome alone the looks of it(and the creepy google information kraken)
I have ff 3.6 and I am fine with it (linux ubuntu (mint) version)
If you fear Google, use Chromium or SRWare Iron.
Chromium is the open source version of Google Chrome. SRWare Iron is a version of Chromium that doesn't report back ANY information.
http://www.chromium.org/ (http://www.chromium.org/)
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php)
And, by the way, all the Google "spying" is just stuff being sent to the Google Search. So, if you are worried about that stuff, you absolutely never ever touch Google's website, right?
Right?
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4040/gloriouschrome.png)
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And, YES, you will be updating your browser. Being stuck on Firefox 3.5 or 3.6 will be like being stuck in 2007.
In case you didn't know, Chrome, Internet Explorer 9, and Firefox 4 will basically NEED GPU rendering in their browsers. The future of the web is advancing quickly. You will be rendering 3D animations on web pages, soon.
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I am sure I will get a script to disable those kind of things. I havent had a new Computer in 10 years . (well i have upgraded the ram but thats all)
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I am sure I will get a script to disable those kind of things. I havent had a new Computer in 10 years . (well i have upgraded the ram but thats all)
Your post is exactly why you need to be using a Chromium-based browser.
Like seriously. I'm not even trying to be a jerk in this post.
1) Your solution to Firefox bullshit is downloading extensions.
2) Your computer is ten years old.
Make your computer feel young again and use a man's browser.
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Here is a list of all the "privacy concerns" of Glorious Google Chrome.
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php)
This is mainly a topic for messing with Mozilla peasantry, but I'll pick on you privacy guys, too.
Google really doesn't give a shit what you are looking at when you are touching your dick.
Notice how the stuff that Iron removes from Chrome are literally FEATURES
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I'll admit that when Chrome first added extensions, they were mostly FireFox ports
But there are a lot of unique and decent ones.
And I will further add that the average FF user is an elitist asshole.
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And I will further add that the average FF user is an elitist asshole.
Have you read anything op wrote? :troll:
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And I will further add that the average FF user is an elitist asshole.
Have you read anything op wrote? :troll:
The big difference here is that Chrome users actually are elites and Firefox users play make-pretend web browsers.
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Fuck you, Kenny. While I do not enjoy that new style and prefer my current version of Firefox, my Firefox does things that my Chrome is too stupid to figure out, like actually deleting all cookies when I close the browser.
However, with that said, are we still up for lunch tomorrow?
There is literally an entire mode for Glorious Google Chrome called Incognito Mode which doesn't even save cookies, period. It doesn't save anything. In fact, it's so good at not saving anything, it doesn't even let you reopen closed tabs. You can start Chrome in Incognito Mode every single time if you desire to.
And yes, I'm up for lunch, but you have to pay for it. I'm not a cheap date, either.
I use Chrome for some things right now, but Firefox is my primary browser simply because the way I have it's incognito mode set up is much better for me.
Also, if I'm paying, I better get some road head on the way back to the office.
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Although you sound like an elitist asshole, Kenny, I admire your passion.
Google Chrome ftw
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I'm not an elitist asshole.
Time to go bump my CR-48 topic.
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Perhaps not. You only SOUND like one :troll:
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Well, elitists run society, so I'm cool with that title.
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Both firefox 4 and chrome are ugly as fuckall, why can't they use regular notugly windows like everyone else
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Both firefox 4 and chrome are ugly as fuckall, why can't they use regular notugly windows like everyone else
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4669/beardwithit.gif)
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I have shit for work which simply will not work with chrome. Most of which I can get around with IE Tab, but one program in particular, I can't even use that. It does work in FF IE Tab though.
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I remember when kenny was bleeding out his ass about people using internet explorer. then he made it so IE users couldn't get on the forums, singlehandedly forcing me to switch. tbh I still don't give a shit about browsers. quickly, everyone download chromium because kenny likes it, or else you're sheep.
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:rainbowsheep:
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quickly, everyone download chromium because kenny likes it, or else you're sheep.
:facepalm: sweet irony.
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OP, I think I love you. Also, re:the FF button on the top, I love how they literally stole that from Opera and still got it wrong. Also:
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/dburgess_locke/banner_1.png)
And I will further add that the average FF user is an elitist asshole.
Don't forget hipster.
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OP, I think I love you. Also, re:the FF button on the top, I love how they literally stole that from Opera and still got it wrong. Also:
(http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/dburgess_locke/banner_1.png)
This guy knows what he is talking about.
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I remember when kenny was bleeding out his ass about people using internet explorer. then he made it so IE users couldn't get on the forums, singlehandedly forcing me to switch. tbh I still don't give a shit about browsers. quickly, everyone download chromium because kenny likes it, or else you're sheep.
That was more about Moth than it was about IE, to be quite honest.
This is about my disappointment of something I used to recommend to people.
I don't understand Firefox's goals anymore while I feel like the Chromium project is one of many things that is going to lead us to the new web.
Hell, while Firefox is fucking up hardcore with tabs on top, Chromium is experimenting with the idea of tabs on the side.
And guess what their reasoning is? It saves on vertical screen space. It's a logical one I think. Ask any Mac user who has moved their dock to sides of their screens instead of the bottom. The "vertical real estate" is worth more to them than it is horizontally.
But, god honestly, can anyone please explain Firefox 4's UI to me, please? The only thing I can fathom is they think minimalistic is trendy or something.
See, Chromium doesn't do this kind of shit. I see logic and good ideas most of the time.
Ever heard of Google Cloud Print?
http://www.google.com/landing/cloudprint/win-enable.html (http://www.google.com/landing/cloudprint/win-enable.html)
See, THAT right there is innovation. When was the last time Mozilla did anything like this?
Also, have any of you ever heard of Chromoting?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2010/06/chrome-os-to-get-chromoting-remote-desktop-feature/ (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2010/06/chrome-os-to-get-chromoting-remote-desktop-feature/)
Yeah.
No fucking shit.
They want to allow you to connect to another computer from Chrome to Chrome...and use the computer.
They are basically telling RDP and VNC to go fuck themselves.
Did they just blow your mind or what?
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I hope you are not losing sleep over this.
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It's literally my job to be a total douche bag about this.
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Tell me the NoSCript equivalent in Chrome and I'll use Chrome.
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Tell me the NoSCript equivalent in Chrome and I'll use Chrome.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/odjhifogjcknibkahlpidmdajjpkkcfn?hl=en-gb
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I think all browsers suck, it's like rating dog shit, this pile is fury, that one mushy, they r all pile a of crap.
(http://home.epix.net/~tjwagner/bg8.jpg)
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Thanks for your incite Mr Internet Explorer user.
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I had Chrome. It was my favorite browser until it started fucking up. I uninstalled it so I could re-install, and it won't even download. <_<
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Try again, like, right now. :)
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Firefox 3 is currently the best browser.
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Firefox 3 is currently the best browser.
2007 post
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FUCK BROWSER WARS, WE'RE SANCTIONED!!!!
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Please don't troll my topics Vintus
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Abe, before I shoot my mouth off about Glorious Internet Explorer and Glorious Google Chrome being the best two browsers, can you verify that IE9 did GPU rendering first?
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Well, this is how I remember it.
Internet Explorer 9 beta comes out and the GPU thing is like a big deal, right?
Like a week later, the latest developer Chromium had GPU rendering support. :3
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That's how I remember it too. But IE9 gets major props for innovating, amirite
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Abe, before I shoot my mouth off about Glorious Internet Explorer and Glorious Google Chrome being the best two browsers, can you verify that IE9 did GPU rendering first?
They did. IE is now literally better than FF.
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The irony seems to be lost amongst the Firefox users.
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Tell me the NoSCript equivalent in Chrome and I'll use Chrome.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/odjhifogjcknibkahlpidmdajjpkkcfn?hl=en-gb
Switching now
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On second thought, reading into some things about this extension is that it can be problematic.
You'll probably be fine running on Windows, though, but apparently you have to set a password.
Huh.
On top of that, it'll ask you for a password every time you update.
That could get annoying.
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257 (http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257)
This link is the reason why it's taken so long to get something like this done. Tell you the truth, I have no idea what NotScript does, but I bet Chrome will still download the scripts anyway...just not execute them.
Anyway, apparently Safari had this problem, too. I imagine fixing this will make a lot of people happy.
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On second thought, reading into some things about this extension is that it can be problematic.
You'll probably be fine running on Windows, though, but apparently you have to set a password.
Huh.
On top of that, it'll ask you for a password every time you update.
That could get annoying.
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257 (http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=54257)
This link is the reason why it's taken so long to get something like this done. Tell you the truth, I have no idea what NotScript does, but I bet Chrome will still download the scripts anyway...just not execute them.
Anyway, apparently Safari had this problem, too. I imagine fixing this will make a lot of people happy.
Seems to do almost exactly what noscript did so far. And I've known the reason noscript isnt in chrome for a while.
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yayy finally can use chrome and not see ads everywhere! I have a boner.
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I will give Firefox some credit for their version of the Web Developer extension. The Chromium one honestly does not compare.
Chrome AdBlock used to suck, but it seems to be doing better lately.
Some Chrome extensions really trump the fuck out of any Firefox ones. FreshStart is a really awesome session manager.
Compatibility with Greasemonkey-written scripts is getting better. Doesn't matter anyway since a lot of them are written for Chrome now. I like how you can manage them with your Extensions and disable/enable them both on the fly.
I hope this is a direction that those Chromium fellows are planning on; I'd like to see extensions treated like apps. Like, I want my Google Voice extension on all the time and my Gmail extension, but I don't want Web Developer or Fresh start on all the time. I turn them on when I need them.
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the location of the notscript icon does bug me, being up at the bookmark button, so instead of blocking the porn site I bookmark it (hypothetically) but oh well.
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the location of the notscript icon does bug me, being up at the bookmark button, so instead of blocking the porn site I bookmark it (hypothetically) but oh well.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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I got 2 cents to add to this...
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvcI2q1I6xmZdjcC4XXRBJFFKwVhTQtRTKwXNwSARQ-fAmC6fi_A)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/Dragonfire967/FFVersion.png)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/Dragonfire967/chromeversion.png)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/Dragonfire967/resourcecompare.png)
As you can see above, firefox uses up more resources than chrome, to display the EXACT same webpage with only one tab open. I also know for a fact that chrome is more secure than FF or IE, and if a tab locks up, you don't have to shut down the entire browser, just that one tab, as each tab is its own process.
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^
Troll post
Let's compare a Firefox and a Chrome that have been running all day. :p
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Sorry, I need to reply to that again.
I mean, for real dog, what are you trying to pull? You think I haven't used Firefox before?
On average, my Firefox would almost go into a gigabyte. Like, 500MB to 700MB range, typically.
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To elaborate, FF's problem isn't just memory use. It handles resources...eh, average. It's that it has what are called memory leaks. Basically, idiot programmers who can't manage their pointers end up leaving large swaths of memory reserved but unused, with the OS unable to clear it until the program closes. In fact, Chrome should, at any given time, be using more resources than FF because it splits tabs into processes (provided that FF didn't suck and leak memory like crazy, mind you). However, because tabs are processes, even if memory leaks were rampant in Chrome, they would be cleared whenever the offending tab was closed. That is where Chrome beats FF, in its ability to use resources more intelligently and cleanly.
tl;dr: In a perfect world, FF would actually use less resources, but because it's so badly coded it can't even hope to, and will always lose out to Chrome in real world comparisons.
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I'm pretty sure Firefox 4 is going to take a similar approach to resource management like Chrome has.
Or at least I hope.
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Troll post
Let's compare a Firefox and a Chrome that have been running all day. :p
Uh, actually. I had JUST opened both browsers at same time, and they had only been running for MAYBE 5 minutes when I took that pic. My point there was FF is more of a resource hog than chrome, and IE is DEFINATELY a hog and it seems to wanna hang up every chance it gets just to spite me.
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His point, is Firefox gets worse, the longer it's open.
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Fuck you Abe. You are literally forcing me to use FireFox now since fucking adblock/adblockplus (neither works) does not work to get rid of that fucking cat. But it works just fine here. So, I am boycotting using Chrome until you fix adblock or get rid of the cat.
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His point, is Firefox gets worse, the longer it's open.
I know that, lol. I was just pointing out the resource use between FF and chrome. I've known for a while FF is both a resource hog and leaks memory.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2009/12/firefox-4-theme-windows.jpg)
Every single one of these is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
How is that middle one wrong? The Firefox icon? >_> Every program I've ever run in Windowed mode had its icon there.
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I've been waiting for you to show up.
I literally can't find a picture of how good it is on Google Image Search, so I'm going to take a picture of my Glorious Google CR-48.
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2894/img0023p.jpg)
As you can see, the cursor is at the very top of the screen and it is on a tab. This took no calculation on my part. I merely just fingered my touchpad as fast as possible and I'm cool. This is called "Good Design".
Let's take a look at the corner.
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/576/img0027cu.jpg)
As you can see, there is no Google Chrome logo. There is no icon for it. Those are things which are called "Pointless" or "Belongs on the About Page".
Even though this is Glorious Google Chrome OS, I insure you it looks this way on all the operating systems I use. :)
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I think it's just a matter of taste at that point, you hypersensitive loser. >_> I like the top bar just fine.
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I think it's just a matter of taste at that point, you hypersensitive loser. >_> I like the top bar just fine.
No one cares what you think. Seriously.
As far as browser design goes, I think out of all people, you have the worst browser opinions of all time. I know that's a strong statement, but...
You literally only switched to Firefox because Windows updated your Internet Explorer 6 to 7 and you didn't like it.
I question my own existence knowing you did that.
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I can confirm that. In windowed mode though there's a half-inch of useless space on top of chrome.
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Yes, but in windowed mode, you probably don't have Chrome at the very top of the screen, either.
The only time this gets annoying for me is when I use Windows 7. I like how you can drag windows to sides of the screen and they take up half of the screen. :3
But of course, yeah, it isn't truly tabs-on-top anymore when you do that. :-/
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I'm glad you think I'm functionally retarded.
But you know what, I'm not using a goddamn computer with 4MB of RAM. I don't need my browser to be ultra minimalistic and use no resources. And the extensions I use either don't work very well in Chrome or don't exist, so excuse me if I don't want warship your precious google chrome and rape the bandwagon with you elitist faggots.
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Never argue with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
And besides, I don't think Firefox users are functionally retarded.
There are plenty of retards that are using Chrome actually.
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You know why I put that there? Because anyone who would actually use it against me is more interested in being a fucking douche than the discussion istelf.
So you have fun with that.
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You know why I put that there? Because anyone who would actually use it against me is more interested in being a fucking douche than the discussion istelf.
So you have fun with that.
u mad bro?
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i aint even mad
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Sorry, I quoted that in terms of me being an idiot and you are arguing with one, actually.
Don't waste your time taking this personal, read the sig.
Also
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/761/chillr.gif)
Most of my bitching in this topic is towards Mozilla being stupid and not actually thinking Firefox users are stupid, god honestly. At least from what I remember.
And I'm kinda trolling a tiny bit. Tiny.
You are wrong though, you do need to worship Google Chrome.
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oh don't worry, I'm not seething with anger or anything.
But either way I only see nit-pickey things about firefox in here.
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I actually disagree that defeating the point of tabs on top is nit-pickey. I think that is a major flop.
You have taken a feature and stripped it of it's functionality and it became pure aesthetics.
This is comparable to say Firefox going with the Chrome idea of combining the address and search bar together, but burritos out the search bar capabilities.
That doesn't make any sense does it?
It makes as much sense as adding the Firefox logo above the tabs. It's going to be bad enough if it has a title bar, too.
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(http://www.blogcdn.com/downloadsquad.switched.com/media/2009/12/firefox-4-theme-windows.jpg)
Every single one of these is WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
How is that middle one wrong? The Firefox icon? >_> Every program I've ever run in Windowed mode had its icon there.
The reason it is wrong:
(http://i.imgur.com/U2RzT.png)
That is the browser they took it from, and they still did it wrong. There's actually an option in Opera to put the title bar back and move the tabs down if you really want it, but the shrunk version is the default. Judging by those screenshots, even if it can shrink at all, the full size is default. The reason why it matters is because on most computers, the vertical screen size is the smaller size, and thus at a premium. The smaller the browser is vertically, the more of the page can be displayed.
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
Extensions?
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
Hit Shift-Esc, it'll show you what each process corresponds to.
Also, somewhat unrelated but funny:
(http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/demotivational-posters-toolbar-fail.jpg)
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
Extensions?
I think I only have adblock and ietab on both of them.
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
Extensions?
I think I only have adblock and ietab on both of them.
If you hit Shift-Esc it runs Chrome's task manager, which names the processes so you can see what they are.
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I had both Firefox and Chrome open at work today. Granted FF had two windows open, while chrome only had 1, but FF was using 3x the memory. All of the pages displayed were basically static, with only a couple small gifs. But what was weird was that there were two Chrome processes running. Both taking about the same memory. But I only had one window open.
Extensions?
I think I only have adblock and ietab on both of them.
If you hit Shift-Esc it runs Chrome's task manager, which names the processes so you can see what they are.
Yes, but I am not at work now, being Saturday and all... Also, they are long since closed since this was from yesterday... Also, I saw that in your last post... Also...
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I will give Firefox some credit for their version of the Web Developer extension. The Chromium one honestly does not compare.
Chrome AdBlock used to suck, but it seems to be doing better lately.
Some Chrome extensions really trump the fuck out of any Firefox ones. FreshStart is a really awesome session manager.
Compatibility with Greasemonkey-written scripts is getting better. Doesn't matter anyway since a lot of them are written for Chrome now. I like how you can manage them with your Extensions and disable/enable them both on the fly.
I hope this is a direction that those Chromium fellows are planning on; I'd like to see extensions treated like apps. Like, I want my Google Voice extension on all the time and my Gmail extension, but I don't want Web Developer or Fresh start on all the time. I turn them on when I need them.
I don't like the FF web developer suite.... the Webkit Inspector takes the cake in my mind. What exactly makes it better?
Also, check out the IE9 Dev Tools sometime. Huge strides, some neat stuff there