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Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« on: December 19, 2015, 11:51:05 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/13/not-winner-oregon-woman-denied-8-jackpot-because-slot-machine-was-broken.html

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An Oregon gambler said her excitement quickly turned to anger after a slot machine revealed that she won $8 million, but casino staffers said it was broken, and refused to give her the prize.

Veronica Castillo said employees at the Lucky Eagle Casino in Rochester, Washington turned off the machine and gave her just $80. She had inserted $100, Q13 Fox reports.


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"Somebody's going to have to account for why this happened," Fox News Legal Analyst Bob Massi told Fox & Friends. He said an attorney could likely challenge the casino's claim.

In a news release, casino officials said the malfunction was evident. For example, they say the machine's maximum jackpot is just $20,000, which gamblers can see before they insert money.

Many casinos reportedly display notices that claim no cash is awarded during equipment malfunctions. Castillo says that's unfair.

"To me, that's deceiving, it's cheating, it might even be fraudulent," she added.

This lady sounds pretty dumb or is a gross desperate person. It isn't even just the casino's rule that malfunction voids the play. It's a federal regulation because, at the time, regulators were a bunch of luddites who were afraid of computers and also were worried that casinos could rig the game easier.

I don't how they insure the results aren't rigged, but every thing done on a slot machine is recorded including hitting the help button and buttons that are blank (video slot machines have video buttons that change depending on the game)

The video on the screen is actually separate from the mechanics behind the game and the winnings have been determined after you hit the button and before the video is done doing its thing.

This was her screen she took a picture of



I mean just looking at this, it would be hard to believe it was a real win because she doesn't have anything good. Hell I'm surprised she'd win anything with that.

I promise you. I'm not lying. If I'm on a literal 5 cents slot machine and if I see any number above six digits, the moment my brain comprehends that number, I won't start celebrating "my dreams coming true". I won't start ranting about getting a lawyer and sue over the injustice that is Jurassic Riches. I wouldn't even complain about getting fucked over.

The moment you decide to sit in front of a slot machine, the fuck over began. It's called gambling and you are at the bottom of the barrel and the guys playing roulette are laughing at you. You know, the game where people bet on where a ball lands.

She's trying to get anything she can out of the casino due to seeing a once in a lifetime computer glitch that would have immediately corrected itself if she had cashed out or much less hit any button on the screen. This is not that dissimilar from going to an ATM, having the ATM glitch out on you saying you have a million dollars, and then trying to sue the bank because the bank is frauding you out of money the ATM said you had.

And, of course, the Fox News legal expert, who obviously knows nothing about the malfunction void federal regulation printed on most slot machines, had to throw in something stupid like "well SOMEBODY is gonna have to answer for this"

The casino already offered her a free weekend in their hotel and free play on their machines. That's the appropriate response and matches the reality that you can't win eight million dollars on a fucking five cent machine.

Now you can't even ask for the lobster dinner for free. Way to play your hand, idiot.


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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 12:02:55 am »
Also if your dream is to be a millionaire get a new dream.

My dream is Mentos in gum form. What's yours?

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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 12:03:43 am »
well, if they said the machine malfunctioned, they might've done better to give her the full $100 rather than $80. but yeah


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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 12:04:22 am »
my dream is to be a legend among asteroid miners in about 100 years


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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 12:09:16 pm »
well, if they said the machine malfunctioned, they might've done better to give her the full $100 rather than $80. but yeah


My guess is they probably gave her literally what her credits were prior to her win or even what she should have won on top of her total. She didn't spend twenty dollars on that machine on a single game I guarantee it unless this post malfunctioned then my guarantee goes to the void too

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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 12:12:14 pm »
my dream is to be a legend among asteroid miners in about 100 years



Man that's a good dream

I have two dreams actually and the second dream is to dive into a volcano

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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 04:40:00 pm »
my dream is to be a legend among asteroid miners in about 100 years
Im not sure why this reminded me of a game i used to play and have been looking for for like a year now, but thank you so much.
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Also it doesn't take that much to be a millionaire... a million isn't that much honestly, Not as long as you start reasonably early (aka now) on your 401k or IRA. if you haven't you should probably start whenever you get a chance...
http://www.bloomberg.com/personal-finance/calculators/retirement/
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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2016, 12:13:44 pm »
Also it doesn't take that much to be a millionaire... a million isn't that much honestly, Not as long as you start reasonably early (aka now) on your 401k or IRA. if you haven't you should probably start whenever you get a chance...
http://www.bloomberg.com/personal-finance/calculators/retirement/
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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2016, 08:15:04 pm »
Also, back on topic. I find it hard to beleive that they wont have to pay out that 8mill... Its 100% their code, has in a glitch any diffrent from any other part of the code? whats to stop them from saying all wins are 'glitches'... this seems supper sketchy...
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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2016, 08:19:49 pm »
Also, back on topic. I find it hard to beleive that they wont have to pay out that 8mill... Its 100% their code, has in a glitch any diffrent from any other part of the code? whats to stop them from saying all wins are 'glitches'... this seems supper sketchy...

because even 8 million dollars would not be worth the accusation of tampering, fines, and whoever knows what else is going on

read about slot machine regulation some time, you'll be surprised. those machines are high tech.

and trust me this lady did not win 8 million or anything even close to that in any way

I bet it didn't even say jackpot on her screen. it just all of a sudden awarded her with way too much money. possibly a glitch in converting from her win to credits.

she didn't win millions of dollars from the damn penny slots. had she cashed out immediately the machine would have printed out her real amount of money.

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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2016, 08:53:59 pm »
It probably is some floating point rounding error, and thats probably true kenny, but its still really sketchy...

http://www.devtopics.com/20-famous-software-disasters/ to be fair shit happens all the time though.
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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2016, 09:02:47 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised an investigation happened, it did make the news. Any RNG would be hardware based which would also have a log. It'd be hard to falsify that.

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Re: Gambler denied 8 million from casino
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2016, 09:17:02 pm »
oh god, im sure they make where i work look like childsplay... and we make medicine... I would really like to read an offical investigation about it, but we both know thats not going to be made public.
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