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« on: October 25, 2009, 04:56:16 am »
Now, we've all known that 4Kids has bought the license for a handful of animes in the past. And due to their target audiences being kids, they have really buffered what was once great animes to have appropriate details for kids...which is pretty much cut out anything that even involved throwing a punch or showing blood. And now, it seems Disney has bought the rights to air Naruto: Shippudden and will air it on Diosney XD. Knowing that Disney has always targeted younger viewers and no one else, one can only imagine how much editing will be done to the series. Plus, w/o some Disney fans not even knoing the original Naruto series, they can only get hopelessly lost in the story.

With so much good, and bad anime being destroyed by heavy censorship by these two companies, I ask, do you think corporations like 4Kids are Disney are a menace to anime everywhere? You decide.

(PS: Im not the biggest fan of most of the animes shown on networks like 4Kids and Disney. EX. Kirby: Right back at ya, Yu-Gi-Oh 5D, Naruto Shippudden, ect. Im just looking at this at different point of view)


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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2009, 05:09:07 am »
Yes they are a danger. They fuck up the name "anime".

May they burn in hell.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 05:25:22 am »
Why Myrrh, how dare you say such things!


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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2009, 07:13:00 am »
buffered? you mean butchered?


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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2009, 12:14:57 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2009, 10:57:48 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2009, 11:04:47 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 01:56:34 am »
Well 4kids is notorious for censoring the shit out of anything they get their hands on. I don't really know what to say about Disney, though I'd expect them to edit the series somewhat.

But yeah, they're a fucking nuisance.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 09:50:54 am »
They only take generic shounen crap, so I don't really care. It's not like they'll never touch stuff like Ergo Proxy and Last Exile.

When they do, THEN I'll go all Eva!Beatrice on them.

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 09:44:56 pm »
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Now, we've all known that 4Kids has bought the license for a handful of animes in the past. And due to their target audiences being kids, they have really buffered what was once great animes to have appropriate details for kids...which is pretty much cut out anything that even involved throwing a punch or showing blood.
Yes, 4Kids is a menace to the anime industry. Who could forget their dub of Pokemon, or their abominable One Piece dub?

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And now, it seems Disney has bought the rights to air Naruto: Shippudden and will air it on Diosney XD. Knowing that Disney has always targeted younger viewers and no one else, one can only imagine how much editing will be done to the series. Plus, w/o some Disney fans not even knoing the original Naruto series, they can only get hopelessly lost in the story.
The bolded part is incorrect. Ever heard of Touchstone Pictures? Owned by Disney.
Also, Disney can do quite well, see the Ghibli movies that they were responsible for dubbing. Howl's Moving Castle was particularly well-dubbed, and Spirited Away was pretty decent.
In fact, the only Ghibli film dub that I have seen that was awful was Grave of the Fireflies, and that was not Disney, but Central Park Media.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 11:58:06 pm »
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And now, it seems Disney has bought the rights to air Naruto: Shippudden and will air it on Diosney XD. Knowing that Disney has always targeted younger viewers and no one else, one can only imagine how much editing will be done to the series. Plus, w/o some Disney fans not even knoing the original Naruto series, they can only get hopelessly lost in the story.
The bolded part is incorrect. Ever heard of Touchstone Pictures? Owned by Disney.
Also, Disney can do quite well, see the Ghibli movies that they were responsible for dubbing. Howl's Moving Castle was particularly well-dubbed, and Spirited Away was pretty decent.
In fact, the only Ghibli film dub that I have seen that was awful was Grave of the Fireflies, and that was not Disney, but Central Park Media.

Ok you are right there. I overlooked that info.

I guess I should say younger kids are Disney's target audience most of the time.

For ex. The fucking Jonas Brothers: Appealing to little girls everywhere in every way.

As for your opinion on Disney, even though i dont agree, its still your opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2009, 02:43:15 am »
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They only take generic shounen crap, so I don't really care. It's not like they'll never touch stuff like Ergo Proxy and Last Exile.

When they do, THEN I'll go all Eva!Beatrice on them.

Yes. I hope they never do touch Last Exile. Just a note though.

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 08:13:20 am »
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 01:16:08 pm »
Well... why the fuck would anybody who actually watches anime watch the shit that 4Kids spews out? They don't even show good series to begin with... So why do we care what they put out? If you're honestly concerened about shit being turned shittier, then you need to re-think your priorites. >_>


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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 01:28:52 am »
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Well... why the fuck would anybody who actually watches anime watch the shit that 4Kids spews out? They don't even show good series to begin with... So why do we care what they put out? If you're honestly concerened about shit being turned shittier, then you need to re-think your priorites. >_>
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2009, 01:58:18 am »
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Well... why the fuck would anybody who actually watches anime watch the shit that 4Kids spews out? They don't even show good series to begin with... So why do we care what they put out? If you're honestly concerened about shit being turned shittier, then you need to re-think your priorites. >_>
Because being surround by people who thinks all anime are the kiddy, shit-spewing crap stuff like the kind 4kids puts out tends to make me RAGE.

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2009, 11:59:31 am »
But: 1.) Why would you even associate with those people?

And: 2.) Why would I EVER bother watching a 4Kids dub of something when I could just watch the original online? It doesn't concern me when they do shit, because there's no reason for me to need to care. And even then, 4Kids would NEVER take any of my series that I watch. They're far to sex-filled and/or violent for them to even dare. You can only really do so much in terms of censorship, people. If they got their hands on my shows... they might be able to televise 5 of the 30 minutes of it due to censorship issues. >_>

Plus: 3.) They'll probably never stray from their current market of televised retardation. It wouldn't prove profitable in the long-run for them, because most people who watch anime and are over the age of 15 have a tendency to eventually realize the stupidity of 4Kids and move on to somewhat "truer" animes. And then of course, if 4Kids were to try and take those as well, people would just ignore it.


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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2009, 04:06:00 pm »
1. Because there's more to life than anime. I have many friends that thinks that anime is retarded. They could go die in a hellfire if only they aren't perfectly normal human beings and I love to hang out with them.

2. It's about public image. If I can choose, I'd like to be associated with anime that are worth being associated with and not some regurgitated crap 4kid spews out.

3. Because maybe they'll wake up and realize "Oh, wait. It's ain't profitable. We can't keep up this shit much longer. Let's see what other anime can be ruined." Naturally, people that know better would just ignore it. The problem with that is that there are more people that DON'T know better than the ones that do. Again, it's all about public image.

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2009, 08:27:40 pm »
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1. Because there's more to life than anime. I have many friends that thinks that anime is retarded. They could go die in a hellfire if only they aren't perfectly normal human beings and I love to hang out with them.

2. It's about public image. If I can choose, I'd like to be associated with anime that are worth being associated with and not some regurgitated crap 4kid spews out.

3. Because maybe they'll wake up and realize "Oh, wait. It's ain't profitable. We can't keep up this shit much longer. Let's see what other anime can be ruined." Naturally, people that know better would just ignore it. The problem with that is that there are more people that DON'T know better than the ones that do. Again, it's all about public image.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2009, 10:02:39 pm »
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1. Because there's more to life than anime. I have many friends that thinks that anime is retarded. They could go die in a hellfire if only they aren't perfectly normal human beings and I love to hang out with them.

2. It's about public image. If I can choose, I'd like to be associated with anime that are worth being associated with and not some regurgitated crap 4kid spews out.

3. Because maybe they'll wake up and realize "Oh, wait. It's ain't profitable. We can't keep up this shit much longer. Let's see what other anime can be ruined." Naturally, people that know better would just ignore it. The problem with that is that there are more people that DON'T know better than the ones that do. Again, it's all about public image.

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