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Random lnsanity / Jesus was the biggest blasphemer ever
« on: April 28, 2007, 02:08:03 pm »Quote from: Shyox
Quote from: wethepeopleYou cannot call yourself Christian, and denounce Jesus in such a way. Why does it matter? Why? Because the lesson he gives us, the lesson of redemption, peace, following him. He promises us the best life we can have, and have seen that proven right time and again, if we but bend our knee to him. He is there, working in our lives, giving us all the chances to spread his word and to grow as he can. I live with Jesus because I want to. I'm actually against most organized religion, and have many opinions on things like that. Why I give a fist about that book, is because its helped me through my life. God has always been there for me, and has always helped me. The lessons he gives, and the wisdom he provides is incredible. I need that book because without it, I would fall into sin, and would forget the right path. I need a good book to tell me how to live, because everyone around me isn't too good at that. "Drink beer, sex, women, money, power!" Screw that! I would be lost in five years without the Bible, and Jesus. Man's take on life is nothing but stupidity to me. Money? The nice car and big house? I would much rather have salvation, thanks.
It matters if he's the son of God or not. If he is, he is what he says. If he isn't, then there is no point in Christianity. Christianity is different because he rose from the dead, promises us Salvation, and defeated death. No other "God" did that.
That damned holy ghost died for you on the cross, layed down those principles you follow, and loves you, Shy. Without him, there is no 'Christ'ianity.
I disagree entirely. If Jesus knew he was going to raise from the dead, then it wasn't quite as noble a thing as people think. If he was divine, then it wouldn't matter if he died or not, because he was immortal. Plenty other gods have defeated death in their own myths, plenty have risen from the dead, and all too many promise salvation.
It means SO MUCH more, the sacrifice so much greater, if he was a mortal man.
That's where you're too blind to see. You're doing everything for yourself, for salvation. You're devoting your life to something in order to get something in return. Wouldn't it be so much more noble a thing to do something... Just because? Because you strive to be a better person, and better yourself? Why must their be some spooky tale that frightens us into gulping down religion?
I'm not denouncing Jesus, I'm making him more noble by making him human, and far more understanding and greater than what the christian faith has turned him into.
When Jesus was crucified atthat point he was titakky seperated fron God hsi father, it was teh act of a mortal to suffer pain and die for our sins, at that moment and in teh trrial leading up to his death Jesus had the free will to deny his father and live and he chose not to to fulfil his role in life