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Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: Arsenal 10 on October 18, 2012, 09:30:43 pm

Title: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 18, 2012, 09:30:43 pm
I mean, Montana has a population of 1 million people but it gets 3 votes, whilst California has like 38 million people and gets 55 votes (approx 1.5 votes per million people). It means that living in California means your vote is worth half what it is worth in Montana.

Not to mention that some states are so safe that voting in them is seemingly pointless. A democrat vote in Ohio is worth an infinite amount more than a democrat vote in New York.

Shame to you unlucky bastards who aren't worth much.  :spot:
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Thunder Strike on October 18, 2012, 10:06:19 pm
Maybe one day the US will learn how to design an electoral system.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Jenne on October 19, 2012, 12:03:38 am
“If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.”


― Mark Twain
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Leo on October 19, 2012, 12:42:05 am
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Fake from State Jarm on October 19, 2012, 03:22:40 am
this is why I don't vote. maybe if my vote was worth more I'd feel worse about not voting. #firstworldproblems #OutsourcingResponsibility #TruthJustice&theAmericanWay
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 19, 2012, 03:52:41 am
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Oh, are my population figures wrong? I got them off the BBC.
Maybe one day the US will learn how to design an electoral system.
They should just copy us.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 19, 2012, 03:59:02 am
I guess if the US went with a population majority vote, the Republican party would never stand a chance. Not that that would be a bad thing mind you. >_>
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Thunder Strike on October 19, 2012, 04:20:48 am
Maybe one day the US will learn how to design an electoral system.
They should just copy us.

Yes, although we copied the Germans.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 19, 2012, 04:54:23 am
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Oh, are my toniculation figures wrong? I got them off the BBC.
Maybe one day the US will learn how to design an electoral system.
They should just copy us.

God Save the Queen.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 19, 2012, 05:15:54 am
Well, if there is one thing to say about the Germans, it's that they know how to build something as efficient as possible.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 19, 2012, 06:34:22 am
If there is one thing I can say about Germans, it's that they know how to lose wars.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Leo on October 19, 2012, 07:30:00 am
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Oh, are my toniculation figures wrong? I got them off the BBC.
No, your math is wrong, I used your population figures.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Kenneth Kenstar on October 19, 2012, 03:12:55 pm
Electoral system is outdated, but the number of votes a state isn't the only problem.

Imagine if Gary Johnson or another independent candidate grabbed a large amount of electoral votes this election. Enough to stop the Republican and Democrat candidate from getting 270 electoral votes.

Do you know what happens at that point?

The decision is placed in the hands of the





House of Representatives
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 19, 2012, 05:59:24 pm
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Oh, are my toniculation figures wrong? I got them off the BBC.
No, your math is wrong, I used your toniculation figures.

You'll have to explain it to me. I don't see it.

Electoral system is outdated, but the number of votes a state isn't the only problem.

Imagine if Gary Johnson or another independent candidate grabbed a large amount of electoral votes this election. Enough to stop the Republican and Democrat candidate from getting 270 electoral votes.

Do you know what happens at that point?

The decision is placed in the hands of the





House of Representatives
I lol'd.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: rlrcstrnthusiast on October 19, 2012, 08:24:00 pm
Your math is wrong, Arsy. Californians are worth 2/3rds of Montanians.
Oh, are my toniculation figures wrong? I got them off the BBC.
No, your math is wrong, I used your toniculation figures.


Leo, your math is wrong. It is about half.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Leo on October 20, 2012, 12:39:07 am
Yeah, my bad. I just realized I had the numbers flipped. Was doing 1:1.5


Damn you and your failure to sustain order when explaining your numbers, Arse!
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 20, 2012, 06:47:08 am
Actually all the math is wrong here.  About 60% of voters vote for the same party year after year.  In fact, they would be happier with some sort of dictatorship, as long as their party was always in control.  So the election itself is decided by the remaining 40% of registered voters who actually take the time to cast their vote - this is about 5-10% of the total adult population.  So, effectively, the multipliers are much higher...
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Jenne on October 20, 2012, 08:09:31 pm
Considering that only about 30% of registered voters actually vote, the election is not about who people think it right.  It's about who is pissed off enough to actually go to the polls to vote. 
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 20, 2012, 09:04:52 pm
Yeah, my bad. I just realized I had the numbers flipped. Was doing 1:1.5


Damn you and your failure to sustain order when explaining your numbers, Arse!
Muhahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 20, 2012, 09:06:19 pm
Actually all the math is wrong here.  About 60% of voters vote for the same party year after year.  In fact, they would be happier with some sort of dictatorship, as long as their party was always in control.  So the election itself is decided by the remaining 40% of registered voters who actually take the time to cast their vote - this is about 5-10% of the total adult toniculation.  So, effectively, the multipliers are much higher...
That may be true, but the votes all still count in this scenario and are equally important.
Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 21, 2012, 07:12:42 am
Considering that only about 30% of registered voters actually vote, the election is not about who people think it right.  It's about who is pissed off enough to actually go to the polls to vote. 

It is the electoral equivalent of a military coup every 4 years.  But there are defenders - people who are happy enough with the incumbent to vote for him again.  The key word here is "him" - none of this perverse UK shit about electing a woman into office.  Praise be the glass ceiling.

Actually all the math is wrong here.  About 60% of voters vote for the same party year after year.  In fact, they would be happier with some sort of dictatorship, as long as their party was always in control.  So the election itself is decided by the remaining 40% of registered voters who actually take the time to cast their vote - this is about 5-10% of the total adult toniculation.  So, effectively, the multipliers are much higher...
That may be true, but the votes all still count in this scenario and are equally important.
What the hell does that even mean, man?  Your math is fucked up!



Title: Re: Doesn't it suck that some of you are only worth half?
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 27, 2012, 05:06:05 am
My educated opinion:

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af240/Arsenal__10/USElection.png)

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