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Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: Agent Lemon on October 26, 2011, 12:33:02 pm

Title: Fun fact
Post by: Agent Lemon on October 26, 2011, 12:33:02 pm
00 = 1

At least in some contexts. In other contexts it's considered to be undefined.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Kenneth Kenstar on October 26, 2011, 12:53:00 pm
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Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 26, 2011, 02:43:28 pm
00 = 1

At least in some contexts. In other contexts it's considered to be undefined.

The only way to prove a statement like this is to see if the reverse is also true.   Does 1 = 00?  Not really, with some exceptions.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Agent Lemon on October 26, 2011, 03:10:17 pm
The guy who told me it has a masters in math. He didn't explain how it worked though.

It says "math error" when I put it in my calculator, but if you google 0^0 it says it's equal to 1.

also trains
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Mia on October 26, 2011, 03:26:28 pm
That is because x0 will always equal one. So it does not matter if x is zero or three, it will equal one.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 26, 2011, 04:32:27 pm
Mia is right.  Your calculator just sucks.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Agent Lemon on October 26, 2011, 04:38:49 pm
I know x0 is 1 in general, but 00 is a weird case. Try it on your calculator and see.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Arsenal 10 on October 26, 2011, 04:48:32 pm
Moral of the story, math is dumb.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Mia on October 26, 2011, 06:33:50 pm
You shouldn't need a calculator for it and zero is not an odd case when it is true for all numbers, so why wouldn't it be true for zero?
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: enragedlobster on October 26, 2011, 06:49:08 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent#Zero_to_the_zero_power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent#Zero_to_the_zero_power)

tl;dr: It's 1 most of the time, but not always.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Mia on October 26, 2011, 06:54:01 pm
For most it is and for general more lower level math, assuming that x to the zero power equals one is safer.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Agent Lemon on October 26, 2011, 07:00:48 pm
If it weren't an odd case I think my calculator would be able to work it out.

From what I've been reading it's not something that's set in stone.
http://community.wolframalpha.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=11131 (http://community.wolframalpha.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=11131)
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0^0 itself is undefined. The lack of a well-defined meaning for this quantity follows from the mutually contradictory facts that a^0 is always 1, so 0^0 should equal 1, but 0^a is always 0 (for a>0), so 0^0 should equal 0. It could be argued that 0^0=1 is a natural definition since
lim_(n->0)n^n=lim_(n->0^+)n^n=lim_(n->0^-)n^n=1.

However, the limit does not exist for general complex values of n. Therefore, the choice of definition for 0^0 is usually defined to be indeterminate.
It says it's highly debated among mathematicians.

But yeah, it's basically safe to say it's 1 most of the time.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Justus2ne1 on October 26, 2011, 07:07:43 pm
Anything to the 0 power is 1 even I know that  :jig:
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 27, 2011, 01:08:42 am
It is the mathematical equivalent of a singularity, and we are all being sucked in.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Jenne on October 27, 2011, 07:27:00 am
It is the mathematical equivalent of a singularity, and we are all being sucked in.
Singularities are always mathematical.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Gangs on October 27, 2011, 08:49:21 am
Singularity this! Bitch!
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Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Snowbound Milk on October 27, 2011, 01:48:08 pm
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Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Jenne on October 27, 2011, 09:22:19 pm
Singularity this! Bitch!
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Holy shit, is that ET?
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Fake from State Jarm on October 27, 2011, 09:39:38 pm
gangs you shouldn't post your mom's pics on the RIA. even if she asked you to.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 28, 2011, 03:18:04 am
It is the mathematical equivalent of a singularity, and we are all being sucked in.
Singularities are always mathematical.

Except when they are manifest.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Gangs on October 28, 2011, 02:21:32 pm
gangs you shouldn't post your mom's pics on the RIA. even if she asked you to.
You're just jealous you'll never be as cool as her! You'll die knowing that...
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on October 29, 2011, 02:59:37 pm
She really let herself go since I dumped her.  Damn.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Gangs on October 31, 2011, 09:10:19 pm
She really let herself go since I dumped her.  Damn.
Where's my basketball hoop dad? Where's MY basketball hoop?
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Leo on October 31, 2011, 09:28:48 pm
You ever hear of a good Indian basketball player, gangs? Exactly, there are none, so stick to a sport your people are good at, like competitive not-eating.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Gangs on November 01, 2011, 12:20:59 am
You ever hear of a good Indian basketball player, gangs? Exactly, there are none, so stick to a sport your people are good at, like competitive not-eating.
I'll have you know that i went to the national hunger strike marathon and came second in the 2 and a half years round.
But that's besides the point... I'm having a reunion rebellion right now.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on November 01, 2011, 11:05:06 am
She really let herself go since I dumped her.  Damn.
Where's my basketball hoop dad? Where's MY basketball hoop?

We can use you mother's vagina as usual.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Gangs on November 01, 2011, 01:31:01 pm
You never loved me.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on November 01, 2011, 02:16:31 pm
Gangs, my love for you is profound.  I love all fellow trolls.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Pterrydactyl on November 01, 2011, 02:25:43 pm
-1=i

So, technically, we are the R-1A

Or, more simplified, -RA
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Leo on November 01, 2011, 02:34:54 pm
No, i=sqrt(-1).
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on November 01, 2011, 02:39:59 pm
And 'a' represents 1, so I guess we are at:

RIA = sqrt(-1) * radius * 1

RIA = sqrt(-r)
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Leo on November 01, 2011, 03:00:19 pm
Actually, if we want a to equal 1, then:
RIA=sqrt(-1)*radius*1

RIA^2=-1*radius^2*1

RIA^2=-1*radius*radius

RIA^2=-R&R

RIA=Ri
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Arsenal 10 on November 01, 2011, 06:23:12 pm
Actually, if we want a to equal 1, then:
RIA=sqrt(-1)*radius*1

RIA^2=-1*radius^2*1

RIA^2=-1*radius*radius

RIA^2=-R&R

RIA=Ri
Leo, you are amazing.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on November 02, 2011, 02:10:35 pm
so we are back to RIA=R*sqrt(-1)
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Leo on November 02, 2011, 02:26:53 pm
Actually, if we want a to equal 1, then:
RIA=sqrt(-1)*radius*1

RIA^2=-1*radius^2*1

RIA^2=-1*radius*radius

RIA^2=-R&R

RIA=Ri
Leo, you are amazing.
Show me your love with some llamas.

Alternate Comment: Not the first time you've told me that while laying on your back, Arse.
Title: Re: Fun fact
Post by: Buck Turgidson on November 02, 2011, 02:33:48 pm
Let's go with the alternate.