Ender's Game

[Shadow]

Saw it this past weekend. It was quite enjoyable. Story and acting was pretty nice. I haven't gotten around to reading the book yet but I've heard its a decent adaption, not perfect of course, but better compared to most other book adapations.

[Princess Celly]

Won't give my money to that homophobic bastard Orson Scott Card.  Gonna pirate it when it hits the internet though.  Can't say it doesn't look good, just that I'm not giving the fucker my money.

[Snowbound Milk]

I really liked this movie.

[Delta1212]

Won't give my money to that homophobic bastard Orson Scott Card.  Gonna pirate it when it hits the internet though.  Can't say it doesn't look good, just that I'm not giving the fucker my money.

Card's deal is from a long time ago and doesn't include receiving any of the box office proceeds. So... He gets exactly as much money regardless of how you watch it.

[Kenneth Kenstar]

no thanks ill just watch the movie when it comes out

[Mogar]

im going to see it tomorrow evening,.

[Fake from State Jarm]

good movie. I'll be interested to see what they do with the sequel.

also I hope they don't get too preachy regarding pacifism.

[Princess Celly]

Won't give my money to that homophobic bastard Orson Scott Card.  Gonna pirate it when it hits the internet though.  Can't say it doesn't look good, just that I'm not giving the fucker my money.

Card's deal is from a long time ago and doesn't include receiving any of the box office proceeds. So... He gets exactly as much money regardless of how you watch it.

yes, but by not watching it, the company that bought the rights will be sent the message that card's works are not profitable, and will not give him money in the future, hopefully.

i couldn't watch it anyway without constantly realizing that the author hates me as a person despite never having met me, just because of who i am.  fuck that garbage.

[Pterrydactyl]

ARE YOU ALL TROLLING?


The casting and the SFX were good, but the movie was HELLA rushed.  Maybe it's because I red the book, and recognize that what happened in 30 days in the movie is 7 YEARS in the book.

Not to mention HOW much they cut out, and everything else.

I know movies from books aren't usually good, BUT THIS WAS A FUCKING TRAVESTY.

[Biff Webster]

I don't mind it if they stray from the book.  I mean, look at Blade Runner.

[Unknown Smurf]

ARE YOU ALL TROLLING?


The casting and the SFX were good, but the movie was HELLA rushed.  Maybe it's because I red the book, and recognize that what happened in 30 days in the movie is 7 YEARS in the book.

Not to mention HOW much they cut out, and everything else.

I know movies from books aren't usually good, BUT THIS WAS A FUCKING TRAVESTY.

Fucking thank you.

The movie was so god damn bad. The impact of Peter on Ender was terrible; the whole

And Bonzo came off as such a fucking loser, He's supposed to be the god damn pride of the Spanish. My favorite line of all time, Bonzo so precise he piss on a plate and don't splatter.. .And Ender knows he killed them? Whole point is that he doesnt know. The whole shit was rushed and terrible imo.

Also the battles against the buggers and in the war room weren't well played imo. They barely showed any strategy, sigh.

[Mogar]

I am in agreement that the movie was kinda trash, I really hated how they skipped so much of battle school.

[Pterrydactyl]

Personally, if I were to make it, my biggest decision would have been 2 movies.

Enders Game: Battle School
Enders Game: Command School

Probably better named...


Also, THE FUCK WITH BEAN?

"My names bean, you know, not worth beans?"
FUCK THEIR DESTRUCTION OF ONE OF THE GREATEST CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME WITH A FUCKING MULTI-PRONGED AIDS INFESTED RAKE.

[Gangs]

Anyone notice how Pterrydactyls been on his periods for over a week now?

Dude, get that shit checked out man.

[Unknown Smurf]

Personally, if I were to make it, my biggest decision would have been 2 movies.

Enders Game: Battle School
Enders Game: Command School

Probably better named...


Also, THE FUCK WITH BEAN?

"My names bean, you know, not worth beans?"
FUCK THEIR DESTRUCTION OF ONE OF THE GREATEST CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME WITH A FUCKING MULTI-PRONGED AIDS INFESTED RAKE.

Yeah and Bean being in the same launch class as Ender; dafuq?

[Pterrydactyl]

Exactly.  Noy to mention: "lol besties with bernard?"

[Fake from State Jarm]

they probably wanted to change the tone to not offend the same adults who thought the books were a bad influence on kids.

[Pterrydactyl]

I can understand why some people might oppose it.  We actually had a discussion about it once in my Modern American Literature class at DePaul.

The discussion was about how, Despite OSC's SUPER homophobic stance IRL, he did not semm to have a problem with creating what some people believe is a semi-homosexual relationship between characters (Ender and Alai in Enders Game).  Despite the fact, that the situations people claim to be sexual seem to stem more from the effects of the world the characters live in (at least, at battle school) than any actual sexual orientation.

However, the counter to this point, was the Ender is so oblivious to anything sexual (due to his age), he even comments that Bonzo's rule about the members of his platoon not being in "skin" around Petra was stupid because it isolated her as different from the boys in the platoon.



Now, while I don't have a problem with them cutting out all of the MASSIVE amounts of nudity that they would have needed to put in (since, in reality, there was only one part of the book involving nudity that actually did anything for the plot, which they did a good job with their version of), I was VERY upset that they pulled the fact that Ender actually killed both Bonzo and Stilson, which was CENTRAL to his character development post-bugger war (when he found out about the deaths during the court-martial hearings).  They cut MANY key aspects of Ender's character development which made it seem from the beginning, that he was the "super commander", instead of growing into it as he did in the book.

Again, while I know it's stupid to expect a movie faithful 100% to the book, I was VERY disappointed in how they seemed to use nothing from the book except quotes, character names, and a few situations.  It was more like the book "inspired" the screenplay, than we converted into it.

[Buck Turgidson]

1) A book and a movie are not the same thing.  Dude Where's My Car was nothing like the book, but it was still a masterpiece.

2) Ender's Game was one of the best science fiction books ever written.  I imagine Speaker for the Dead would be a little like having a Jesuit running amok among Ewoks.  That turn into trees.  No movie please.

3) Who cares what OSC had to say about queers?  His closing comments on the subject were perfect;  The queers won the national debate, and let's see if they can be as tolerant in victory as they wanted everyone to be when they were the underdogs. 

I am happy that fags can marry - love transcends equipment.  But now that the battle is over, do I still need to see men kissing each other in every single show I watch?  Every single episode?  Really?  Not everyone is gay, you know.  Of course, maybe I could change the channel from Gay TV... 

It's like when every comedian was Jewish, and TV and movies were bombarded by racist jokes that only Jews could repeat.  Or Chris Rock's delightfully riskée racism mining.  And I can't even write the word "nigger" on this board (not that I would in any case).

Or is it going to go the way of Women's rights, and are Universities going to have half of their humanities curriculum dedicated to Homo Studies?  Really, do women really need that much higher education to learn how to be themselves?  And now every woman thinks she is the pointy tip of the women's lib movement, when all the real ground was broken 70 - 100 years ago.

My philosophy is simple:  If you want to suck a dick, go for it.  If you want to wear a hat, go for it.  If you want to marry, go for it.  Government has no place in interfering with a citizen's choices.  If you disagree, go for it.

And if you write a good book, it should be judged on its own merits.

[Snowbound Milk]

I really enjoyed the last two sentences of your post... the rest not so much. Not everyone watching public television is heterosexual either slug. It isn't about 'tolerance' it's about equality so you can shove that whole post right back up your ass. And it isn't women's lib(60s), it's also about equality. Now I don't know what ruined the beauty of feminism for you but I seriously think you need to turn your radar back on.