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Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 16, 2009, 07:49:53 pm
ITT, we talk about how fucking awesome metal is and recommend badass metal bands to each other.

This is not a thread for elitism, either from metalheads or against metalheads. If you're thinking of being a dick to me or any other posters because we like metal, leave this thread and don't look back.

For my first recommendation, I give you:
Axamenta - Progressive Death/Black Metal
The Omniscient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT5bGtpmavY)
Ashes to Flesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbUe_mAQWxg)

These guys are badass as fuck. They mix the complicated structures and odd instrumentations of progressive metal with the power of death metal and the atmosphere of black metal. Their 2006 album Ever-Arch-I-Tech-Ture is one of the best prog death albums I've ever heard and features guest vocals from Pain of Salvation's Daniel Gildenlöw, who is one of the most powerful vocalists I've ever heard and provides a great contrast with the death vocals that make up the rest of the album. Unfortunately, the band split up after Ever-Arch-I-Tech-Ture, but at least they ended on a fucking awesome note.
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 16, 2009, 09:04:38 pm
I second Axamenta because they can change gears really fast and appeal to a lot of genres, every if they're a bit crude. But really they appeal to three genres and if you hate them you're a fag.

As far as Progressive goes, there's a lot of choices. Queensryche (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYXxv72AQE) is popular for their dynamic vocalist, crunchy riffs and political lyrics that really appealed to the left side back in the day. While many, and I, consider them near NWOBHM Operation: Mindcrime was wildly popular and had sexy songs like the hyperlink'd one.

If a bit sadder or heavier progressive is your thing, you might want to consider Opeth. I'm not a huge fan, but they're straight foward and too popular for their own good. Mostly death vocals accompanied by an Insomnium-esque riffing pattern and their lyrics are almost entirely based on relationships.

Bleak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB1NuL-8Dhc)
Patterns in the Ivy 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_Tj6mZwzL0&feature=related)

I'll let EL suggest some others, like Pain of Salvation.

Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 16, 2009, 09:16:52 pm
I'm gonna start the sub topic on Thrash, which I've been into for a good bit.

Megadeth

Probably the second most popular thrash metal band, Megadeth is--at times--one of the most technical and complicated thrash around. Main features is a growling vocalist, intriciate guitar riffs and political lyrics usually accompanied by a very NWOBHM or early thrash riffing style. Megadeth's replayability lies in their vast catalog, almost every album totally changing guitar tone or feel in another direction. My favorite songs--

Accessibility--8/10

Tornado of Souls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8B-ZhAe7I) <-My favorite
Last Rites/Loved to death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjGy9mUDugU)
Victory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eF_9vwa4i8)

Metal Church

This band emerged out of no where sporting a Halford-esque vocalist, doom inspired lyrics usually about failures in planning or betrayal, with some of the fastest guitar work of the time. Since the Dark album they have been on a downhill slide and are worthless since David Howe died, but many consider Their S/T and The Dark their best work.

Accessibility--6/10, might be too fast/dark for some

Burial at Sea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lXHLHkBQ7c)
The Final Word (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ztSv5mBDs) <- My favorite
Watch the Children Pray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=662dOoTubJ8)

Kreator

This German born thrash band laid down some vital foundations for death metal to come, straying almost TOO Close to it at times but still providing some catchy thrash riffs and up beat vocals. Kreator's emotion strives from its lyrics, detailing self abuse, problems in government and the inner hate of men. Some of the smartest thrash their is, its also some of the cheesiest if you look at it from a standpoint. The biggest turn off is their vocalist for some, if you don't like semi-death vocals.

Accessibility--5/10, Harsh vocals might throw off some

Violent Revolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-tK7rLNSYE)
Impossible Brutality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31JzKz-0ag) -< Favorite
Riot of Violence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxXGANvH9GI)
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 16, 2009, 09:35:38 pm
Pain of Salvation - Progressive Metal
Idioglossia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcsoq7SYeo)
In the Flesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ragU6RvZNy4)

Probably one of the most diverse bands in metal, Pain of Salvation have songs that fall into numerous genres and subgenres, from standard progressive metal (see Idioglossia, above) to emotional ballads (see In the Flesh, above) to, on one notable occasion apiece, rap and disco. All of their music has some characteristics of progressive metal, however, such as shifting time signatures and tempos, odd polyrhythmic sections, and powerful, melodic vocals. Every album they have made is a concept album, even their first two live albums have a story. The most obvious aspect of their music is their vocalist, Daniel Gildenlöw, who boasts a massive 4-octave vocal range, going from deep bass notes to soaring soprano notes in the same song. Gildenlöw is also the lead guitarist and almost exclusive songwriter for the band - to date, only one song has been written with the help of another bandmate. Looking past the vocals, however, one can see the incredible skill all five members of the band possess. Pain of Salvation are still around, but have gone through three member changes since their 2007 album. They are currently recording a new album, due out this fall.
Title: METAL
Post by: Electric Mango on July 16, 2009, 11:36:27 pm
Metallica has been my favorite heavy metal band of all time for a long time.  I'm going to see them Oct 13th when they hit the Target Center in Minneapolis.  I can't wait.

\,,/    \,,/
Title: METAL
Post by: Fake from State Jarm on July 17, 2009, 12:27:34 am
I recommend

Rocket Propelled Penises

Whores Gone Wild

Mother of Mohammed
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 17, 2009, 01:59:42 am
Quote from: Electric Mango
Metallica has been my favorite heavy metal band of all time for a long time.  I'm going to see them Oct 13th when they hit the Target Center in Minneapolis.  I can't wait.

\,,/    \,,/

I feel bad for you.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 17, 2009, 06:41:38 am
I am definitely a more old school metal head.  Metallica, Megadeth, Guns...  I used to listed to Pupptez before every game in HS and College.  The flow of that album, bringing you up and down and ending with the insane crescendo that is Damage, Inc. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUS4m_mF3s)  Even listening to it now makes me want to slam my head into something.  

Cygnus Loop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vCBNcgUP88) - The guy on the keyboard at the beginning is a guy I work with.  He sings on occasion as well.  I have seen them a couple time.  I can get into the music, but I just can't get into the style of music without intelligible lyrics.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 17, 2009, 06:44:06 am
Quote from: C-zom
I'm gonna start the sub topic on Thrash, which I've been into for a good bit.

Megadeth

Probably the second most tonicular thrash metal band, Megadeth is--at times--one of the most technical and complicated thrash around. Main features is a growling vocalist, intriciate guitar riffs and political lyrics usually accompanied by a very NWOBHM or early thrash riffing style. Megadeth's replayability lies in their vast catalog, almost every album totally changing guitar tone or feel in another direction. My favorite songs--
Architecture of Aggression (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bZ-6UMyeA) - Most underrated song ever.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 17, 2009, 09:40:12 am
Death - Death Metal/Progressive Death Metal
Baptized in Blood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErTOJwCjRkw)
Spirit Crusher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRyl_p1z9Nw)

If you've ever wondered where death metal got its name, here is your answer. Death came out of nowhere with their 1987 debut, Scream Bloody Gore, taking the intensity and speed of thrash metal and increasing it tenfold, creating a whole new genre that ended up named after them. However, after a few albums of straight-up death metal, they decided to play with it a bit and added progressive elements, ending up as one of the first progressive death metal bands. Unfortunately, the driving force behind Death, vocalist/guitarist Chuck Schuldiner, died in 2001 from brain stem cancer. Former members have gone on to other well-known metal bands, such as Cynic, Strapping Young Lad, Iced Earth, and Testament.
Title: METAL
Post by: Untelligent on July 17, 2009, 10:48:08 am
Quote from: Jenne
I am definitely a more old school metal head.  Metallica, Megadeth, Guns...


 This, pretty much. I haven't listened to Megadeth, though, maybe I'll take a look at them when the place I get my music from stops being broken.
Title: METAL
Post by: Crunka on July 17, 2009, 11:56:29 am
ITT: elitist metalheads
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 17, 2009, 02:34:39 pm
Quote from: Crunka
ITT: elitist metalheads
I'm probably the least musically elitist person on these boards, so would you kindly take your negativity out of this thread?
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 17, 2009, 02:38:29 pm
lol Crunka, and your biased and retarded views of a genre. I know for fact EL is far from elitest and *extremely* open and varied in his musical tastes. As am I, just not as varied. So get your cockpony out of here.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 17, 2009, 03:16:56 pm
Clay People
Awake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQkRPy7OXU) - Wake up, Time to Die!

I have never met anyone outside the Albany area who has heard of them.  The had moderate success, including touring with Type O Negative.

Speaking of, loves me some Type O too.
Wolf Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOC8fCa5Zs) - To quote Peter Steele "This is a song about a guy who turns into a warewolf when he goes down on a menstruating woman under a full moon.  What's a little roast beef without the gravy"
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 17, 2009, 04:14:28 pm
Exploring the Doom genre...

Candlemass

Candlemass released the album Epicus Doomicus Metallicus in 1986 which, aside from Pentragram and Black Sabbath, was the first REAL Doom to be carried on throughout the years by other bands. It featured prominant, slow riffs. An odd drum pattern and very slow timings paired by a mournful and enigmatic vocalist. Their bassist wrote all the riffs, lyrics and songs and still does to this day, often considered one of the best bassists in the business.

So if you like dark fantasy/doom lyrics often in Lovecraftian or just simply dark aesops and also dig heavy riffs that will make your subwoofer cry, Candlemass is for you.

Accessibility--7/10, The easiest doom metal band to get into as they have mid to slow paced songs, a NWOBHM style vocalist, and clean lyrics and moderately slow paced solos.

Solitude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Spu7FWs8ik)
Under the Oak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5hOzLUa2IM) <- Favorite
At Gallows End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnFJJfwiwb4)

Warning

In the 2000's Doom had a return, from Candlemass' return to Reverend Bizarre to Warning. Warning has taken the best from the "literal" doom bands before it and churned out only one album, but its power and emotion is immense. Production values for such a low budget band were hailed and while their lyrics are almost always about past relationships (See: Opeth), they manage to craft them in vague scenarios that often sound more epic than they should. That basically describes the whole genre.

Warning is for those rare moods, where you just feel like crap. You probably won't be able to listen to more than one or two of their songs in one sitting. They're very long, immense in sound, and their vocalist is one of the most emotional I've found in a while.

Acessibility--4/10, People may be turned off by the immensely slow pace of the guitars and the wailing and sad albeit clean vocalist.

Footprints (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=774GvRN2yKk) <- Favorite
Watching From a Distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMr61LyEV0&feature=PlayList&p=3F506ADA9D3B9795&index=0)
Bridges (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fCxBHCG4g&feature=PlayList&p=3F506ADA9D3B9795&index=2)

Black Sabbath

Black sabbath has had many faces, but only one emotion. Tony Iommi has been the driving force of this band since the 70's, and basically inventing this whole genre albeit being surpassed later on until recently.  The Black Sabbath I will discuss today is the Dio years, past and modern, which far surpass anything Ozzy has done past Paranoid or Master of Reality.

The Dio years are fast paced and upbeat, and almost NWOBHM (See: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest). The highlights are some masterful riffs by Iommi and Dio's lyrics. His lyrics are hard to describe, often being ironic and poetic and really "old school." "Rainbow in the dark," "Breaking into heaven," Etc. Sabbath has recently returned to Doom, with Dio. Paired with his songwriting its some of the best in modern bands.

Also, it can be noted Dio is almost 70 and has the most energy of anyone live I've ever seen. See the video for "I" below.

Modern:

Breaking into Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPQMYKELU48) <- Favorite
Eating the Cannibals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_3R7ZmUNY&feature=PlayList&p=DCF433DC0E5C05E3&index=0) <-Best damn title ever
Bible Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwFTBj376zk)

The Past:

Rainbow in the Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoA3Fr3Zgh4)
"I" Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_CY2bq2lcU&feature=related) -< Best
Holy Diver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7UBgVVew8)




Title: METAL
Post by: Aaron on July 17, 2009, 05:33:30 pm
I would recommend Sabaton, Ensiferum, Anterior, Doomsword. Amon Amarth, Machine Head and Wintersun.
Title: METAL
Post by: Fake from State Jarm on July 17, 2009, 06:35:32 pm
Quote from: Jenne
Clay People
Awake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQkRPy7OXU) - Wake up, Time to Die!

I have never met anyone outside the Albany area who has heard of them.  The had moderate success, including touring with Type O Negative.

Speaking of, loves me some Type O too.
Wolf Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFOC8fCa5Zs) - To quote Peter Steele "This is a song about a guy who turns into a warewolf when he goes down on a menstruating woman under a full moon.  What's a little roast beef without the gravy"

it's not gravy, it's chunky uterus blood.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 17, 2009, 07:11:11 pm
Strapping Young Lad - Death/Thrash Metal with Industrial Influences
All Hail the New Flesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaN3YEbYbng)
Shitstorm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW9WUCJSK1E)

Strapping Young Lad represents the darker side of their bipolar frontman, Devin Townsend. They are one of the most intense bands I have ever listened to, absolutely pummeling the listener with a wall of sound. Despite the intense music, the lyrics are hilariously tongue-in-cheek. The star of this band is vocalist/guitarist Devin Townsend, one of my favorite vocalists, providing an astounding range from sheer rage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4G_IO5zmwM) to powerful emotion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz0_fB-3_pA), although the former is more heavily relied on in SYL.. Gene Hoglan, one of the most practiced drummers in existence, provides a powerful backdrop complete with some of the most accurate and fast double bass and blast beats I've ever heard. Their albums City and Alien are highly recommended to those who can handle their intensity.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 17, 2009, 07:30:00 pm
Pig Destroyer - Grindcore
Cheerleader Corpses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMQe33Nkc94)
Towering Flesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tgmscg9e34)

These guys are not for the faint of heart. Their songs average at under two minutes apiece, ignoring their 37-minute doom metal epic. They are fast, intense, and incredibly awesome. Honestly, there's little I can say that isn't represented by those two brief songs up there. Again, not for the faint of heart. Their songs are brutal and their lyrics are incredibly disturbing.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 17, 2009, 07:56:45 pm
Quote from: C-zom
Black Sabbath

Black sabbath has had many faces, but only one emotion. Tony Iommi has been the driving force of this band since the 70's, and basically inventing this whole genre albeit being surpassed later on until recently.  The Black Sabbath I will discuss today is the Dio years, past and modern, which far surpass anything Ozzy has done past Paranoid or Master of Reality.

The Dio years are fast paced and upbeat, and almost NWOBHM (See: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest). The highlights are some masterful riffs by Iommi and Dio's lyrics. His lyrics are hard to describe, often being ironic and poetic and really "old school." "Rainbow in the dark," "Breaking into heaven," Etc. Sabbath has recently returned to Doom, with Dio. Paired with his songwriting its some of the best in modern bands.

Also, it can be noted Dio is almost 70 and has the most energy of anyone live I've ever seen. See the video for "I" below.

Modern:

Breaking into Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPQMYKELU48) <- Favorite
Eating the Cannibals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_3R7ZmUNY&feature=PlayList&p=DCF433DC0E5C05E3&index=0) <-Best damn title ever
Bible Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwFTBj376zk)

The Past:

Rainbow in the Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoA3Fr3Zgh4)
"I" Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_CY2bq2lcU&feature=related) -< Best
Holy Diver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj7UBgVVew8)

I prefer to pretend Ronnie James Dio never existed, in any form.
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 17, 2009, 10:48:22 pm
I've lost all respect for you.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 18, 2009, 10:02:08 am
Quote from: C-zom
I've lost all respect for you.
Sorry for not being ghey.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 18, 2009, 11:40:18 am
Meshuggah - Technical Post-Thrash Metal
New Millennium Cyanide Christ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_tSyJBsRQ)
Future Breed Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOd-T58qHLA)

Meshuggah are one of the most rhythmically complex bands I've ever listened to. They commonly play in obscure time signatures, with the drums playing polyrhythms underneath. Their drummer, Tomas Haake, is fully capable of playing four completely different rhythms with his four limbs, and has done so on numerous occasions. They are a very tough band to "get," primarily due to the extreme complexity of their songs and completely atonal vocals. They have released one EP and one full-length album that each consist of one song, the latter split into separate tracks for ease of skipping through. Their typical albums have more than one song, though, so don't worry about that.
Title: METAL
Post by: rlrcstrnthusiast on July 18, 2009, 12:20:33 pm
Quote from: C-zom
If a bit sadder or heavier progressive is your thing, you might want to consider Opeth. I'm not a huge fan, but they're straight foward and too tonicular for their own good. Mostly death vocals accompanied by an Insomnium-esque riffing pattern and their lyrics are almost entirely based on relationships.

Maybe if Blackwater Park is the only CD you listen to.
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 18, 2009, 02:19:20 pm
My Arms your hearse > Blackwater

fyi
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 18, 2009, 02:28:14 pm
Quote from: Jenne
Quote from: C-zom
I've lost all respect for you.
Sorry for not being ghey.

Its ozzy thats gay. Ozzy that sold out after Sabbath Bloddy Sabbath. Its Ozzy thats suing Iommi now for sole rights to the band. Itz Ozzy that sold out on TV and did one of the most awful solo careers in metal.

Fuck him. Dio > Ozzy
Title: METAL
Post by: Agent Lemon on July 18, 2009, 05:49:22 pm
I'm not really into metal that much but I like Pantera and Megadeth and some other stuff is ok too. I'll listen to some stuff posted here and see if I like it.
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 18, 2009, 07:26:39 pm
Sounds good Lemon. Tell me what you think
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 18, 2009, 07:33:15 pm
Slayer - Thrash Metal
Black Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtmNOaG1KBA)
South of Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aYQUfdnQFE)

For the longest time, I hated Slayer. They seemed to just be another generic "Satanic" thrash metal band who everyone loved because they were edgy. I finally gave them another shot, with the song Black Magic (linked above) and finally realized what I was missing. Everything fits together perfectly - the kind of on pitch vocals, the repetitive guitar and drums, the nearly inaudible bass, even the sloppy guitar solo. While those all seem like very negative things, they fit together so perfectly to form that pinnacle of aggression that metal is all about. Unfortunately, after their album South of Heaven, they suddenly forgot how to be good and indeed became another generic "Satanic" thrash metal band who everyone loved because they were edgy.

Fun fact: Slayer's lead singer, Tom Araya, is a practicing Catholic.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 18, 2009, 07:34:34 pm
Quote from: Agent Lemon
I'm not really into metal that much but I like Pantera and Megadeth and some other stuff is ok too. I'll listen to some stuff posted here and see if I like it.
Be warned: you will hate a lot of what I posted. I'm a fan of the extreme side of metal, which is very difficult to get into.
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on July 18, 2009, 09:16:42 pm
I used to listed to Danzig a lot back in the day.  Sure, he is such an egotistical prick that his band has left him several times, but he still keeps yelling like Grover doing a "near/far" bit.  It's simplistic, yet angry and evil all at the same time.  

Going Down to Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo0zu1VNZaA)
Sistinas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_kehhT_qQU&feature=related) - Very uncharacteristic of them, but I always liked it.

Quote from: C-zom
Quote from: Jenne
Quote from: C-zom
I've lost all respect for you.
Sorry for not being ghey.

Its ozzy thats gay. Ozzy that sold out after Sabbath Bloddy Sabbath. Its Ozzy thats suing Iommi now for sole rights to the band. Itz Ozzy that sold out on TV and did one of the most awful solo careers in metal.

Fuck him. Dio > Ozzy

Dio is about one step away from hair metal.

I tend to think of Ozzy with Sabbath and Ozzy solo as completely separate entities.  I was into Ozzy as a solo long before I really knew of him with Sabbath.  So, the transition going that way only makes him better.  

Quote from: Agent Lemon
I'm not really into metal that much but I like Pantera and Megadeth and some other stuff is ok too. I'll listen to some stuff posted here and see if I like it.
Pantara is great gym music.
Title: METAL
Post by: DeadrAlive on July 18, 2009, 09:36:40 pm
Nile
 Dethclok
 System of a Down
 Acid Mothers Temple
 Mastodon
 Strapping Young Lad
 Amon Amarth
 Gong


  Well there not all Metal  

EDIT: Frank Zappa
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 18, 2009, 10:28:08 pm
Quote
Dio is about one step away from hair metal.

I tend to think of Ozzy with Sabbath and Ozzy solo as completely separate entities. I was into Ozzy as a solo long before I really knew of him with Sabbath. So, the transition going that way only makes him better.

This is completely wrong. Dio is Epic Doom for his Sabbath career. I can agree with that about his solo career though, but thats NWOBHM. See: He's extremely similar to Priest and Maiden at the time.

Yeah, I can agree with this sentence.
Title: METAL
Post by: Electric Mango on July 18, 2009, 11:54:35 pm
Quote from: C-zom
Quote from: Electric Mango
Metallica has been my favorite heavy metal band of all time for a long time.  I'm going to see them Oct 13th when they hit the Target Center in Minneapolis.  I can't wait.

\,,/    \,,/

I feel bad for you.


Why feel bad.  Metallica are the gods of metal, there is none higher.  Nobody rocks harder than Metallica.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 19, 2009, 01:23:20 pm
In Flames - Melodic Death Metal
Moonshield (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CffJeVSAJk8)
Jotun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQaBtUZA7c0)

Pretend you've never heard of this band. Their later stuff is absolutely atrocious and, unfortunately, extremely popular, but their old music is absolutely fantastic. They seamlessly blended acoustic melodies with the then-new Gothenburg melodic death metal scene, making what is, in my opinion, the two best melodeath records - The Jester Race and Whoracle - and a few other pretty good ones. Their guitar tone is heavy yet decipherable, the vocals are unmistakably death metal, but again, they are decipherable. These guys, along with Opeth, are the perfect bands for getting used to harsh vocals. Unfortunately, after Whoracle, they started a steady decline, going from such a fantastic sound to...t (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LegVIgCD2VQ)h (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1cHtdttHM&feature=related)i (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCP0AAqm0P0)s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJP5MqniJZo). Gone are the guitar melodies and subtlety, replaced by nü-metal power chords and obvious angst-filled lyrics.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 19, 2009, 01:26:05 pm
Quote from: Electric Mango
Quote from: C-zom
Quote from: Electric Mango
Metallica has been my favorite heavy metal band of all time for a long time.  I'm going to see them Oct 13th when they hit the Target Center in Minneapolis.  I can't wait.

\,,/    \,,/

I feel bad for you.


Why feel bad.  Metallica are the gods of metal, there is none higher.  Nobody rocks harder than Metallica.
Metallica have their moments (those being Kill 'em All and Master of Puppets), but on the whole, they are extremely generic and lost all their uniqueness when Cliff Burton died.
Title: METAL
Post by: Skulryk on July 19, 2009, 02:21:37 pm
I know -NOTHING- about Metal. My knowledge lies in Classical (through training) and Rock (because I've always been inclined towards it). BUT, there is one metal band I'm familiar with and actively follow:

Nightwish. Discovered them after a friend swapped out my iPod for her's while I was distracted yelling at a stupid driver who cut me off. I liked what I heard and bought more.

Their latest album, Dark Passion Play, is my favorite by far. Definite fav track: "Master Passion Greed." Very violent song about their last lead singer. But I also love "Whoever Brings the Night." It's a song about whores with an epic guitar solo halfway through. What more could one want?
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 19, 2009, 04:55:15 pm
I can't help you there. Power metal is an extremely weak genre and isn't even metal, it could be more accurately called fast progressive rock. Also nightwish is one of the weaker power bands I've heard.

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In Flames - Melodic Death Metal
Moonshield
Jotun

Pretend you've never heard of this band. Their later stuff is absolutely atrocious and, unfortunately, extremely popular, but their old music is absolutely fantastic. They seamlessly blended acoustic melodies with the then-new Gothenburg melodic death metal scene, making what is, in my opinion, the two best melodeath records - The Jester Race and Whoracle - and a few other pretty good ones. Their guitar tone is heavy yet decipherable, the vocals are unmistakably death metal, but again, they are decipherable. These guys, along with Opeth, are the perfect bands for getting used to harsh vocals. Unfortunately, after Whoracle, they started a steady decline, going from such a fantastic sound to...this. Gone are the guitar melodies and subtlety, replaced by nü-metal power chords and obvious angst-filled lyrics.

second'd
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Post by: enragedlobster on July 19, 2009, 10:21:44 pm
Power metal, you say? I'm not very well-versed in it, but here's a few bands I do know (descriptions will be shorter than usual, due to my relative lack of knowledge with regard to this genre):

Iced Earth - Power/Thrash Metal
A Question of Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EVTmLuS6Sc)
Dracula (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jEwV00zeqo)

Probably my second favorite power metal band, Iced Earth are amazing almost solely because of their old vocalist, Matt Barlow. That man's voice just oozes emotion when it needs to and pummels your face in when it needs to. Their reliance on Barlow's vocals really shows when you listen to the albums before and after he was in the band, which really suffer at the lack of his vocal talent.

Blind Guardian - Power Metal
Somewhere Far Beyond (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kioBCb3fRw)
The Curse of Feanor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lg2AAXaWCU)

Power metal with an awesome vocalist and nerdy concept albums (theirs being about the Silmarillion). This seems familiar.

Dragonforce - Power Metal
Valley of the Damned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3IWGddh3pQ)
Disciples of Babylon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TujBOilUp8o)

Dragonforce are a terrible band. They weren't always, though. Their first album is one of the best power metal albums I've ever heard. Unfortunately, they ended up gobbling their own cocks and ripped themselves off more and more with each album. They suck shit now.

Symphony X - Progressive Power Metal
Sea of Lies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMi5PtHG0E)
Inferno (Unleash the Fire) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOMkUHkUXg)

Symphony X are extremely talented musicians. They are easily my favorite power metal band, mostly because they do power metal differently. There is a lot of prog in their music, as well. They have a few huge epics that surpass 20 minutes across numerous movements, a kind of song typically reserved for prog. They also shift time signatures and tempos regularly, most evident in Inferno, linked above.
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Post by: Aaron on July 20, 2009, 03:29:39 am
Blind Guardian are among my favourite bands ^_^

Engraged - you may like bands like Rhapsody, Ensiferum, possibly Turisas and the like.
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Post by: KingRanter on July 20, 2009, 06:23:31 am
I don't know why it seems everyone in the RIA listens to metal but me. >_>
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Post by: enragedlobster on July 20, 2009, 08:24:14 am
Quote from: Aaron
Blind Guardian are among my favourite bands ^_^

Engraged - you may like bands like Rhapsody, Ensiferum, possibly Turisas and the like.
I already have some of Rhapsody's stuff, but I'm not very big into power metal, so I only have the obvious bands.
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Post by: Aaron on July 20, 2009, 01:24:28 pm
Sabaton - Cliffs of Galipoli (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOCe2Y7iVF8)

These guys are great power metal, they sing a lot about war and people who fought in them, but never glorifies war or takes sides.
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Post by: C-zom on July 20, 2009, 04:27:24 pm
Lets go NWOBHM

Judas Priest

Judas Priest was formed in the late 60's, and is credited for making the metal we know today along with black sabbath. They are the originators of the twin guitar sound as well. And while their first album was mainstream rock, they differentiated themselves from the others with Sad Wings of Destiny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NomJuAkoA),  Sin after Sin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mpt8xyZVI) and Staind Class (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf-RSd8T9L0)

They went on to make over a dozen more albums, constantly evolving their own sound until its metal peak in the Painkiller album. (Even though I like Defenders of the Faith more.)

Judas Priest has become popular for their twin guitar solos, their energy and Halford's performance as one of the best frontmen in rock/metal ever until recently. Rob Halford, their vocalist, has a nearly four octave range and while not technically impressive on paper he has been known to sing entire sections of songs in G5, and no I don't mean painkiller. He has shown some of the best note control in the business, not just using screams to this effect as he does often but Entire goddamn verses. (Skip to middle) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LuP6LjaKNU)

Modern Judas Priest is nothing to turn your attention on, as they peaked on defenders of the faith and since anything past painkiller have become a mockery of themselves in similar fashion to Megadeth. But in their time they were the headlining NWOBHM heavy metal band, inspiring moterhead, Iron Maiden, and more to be formed.

Below are 4 songs detailing their energy and sound, then four more showing Halford's range.

Top 4 Live songs:

Electric Eye live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4fSs_B_gU&feature=related)
Freewheel Burning Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYOQf2OWG0&feature=related)
Screaming for Vengeance live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77sInPnJE7s)
Riding on the wind live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28aWEi9mJn4)


Top 4 Halford songs:

Beyond the Realms of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xodBOUsfFVc)
Painkiller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFVqEDDuaAo)
Sad Wing's live, entire song is NOT falsetto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JpuiaizxA)
Desert Plains-- Skip to 3:30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBvz_vTc5Xo)



Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on July 20, 2009, 06:59:14 pm
Quote from: C-zom
Rob Halford, their vocalist, has a nearly four octave range and while not technically impressive on paper
Just so you know, that's incredibly impressive on paper. Hell, three octaves is damned impressive.
Title: METAL
Post by: C-zom on July 20, 2009, 10:27:18 pm
Well to the less educated 3 octaves might not sound impressive. I know its very damn good, but some n00bs here might go "lol 3? thats not a big number haw"
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Post by: Skulryk on July 21, 2009, 09:32:08 am
I have to belt to reach my third octave damnit. >_> And even then I can't quite reach a fourth without falsetto. v_v Not that my lowest notes are pretty either though...

There's this vocal trainer on youtube who's all like, "look at me, I sing 6 octaves!" and I'm all like, "Go shove a dildo cuz you only sound good in 2 of them and your upper register still sounds like a weak falsetto even if it isn't!" ... I harbor animosity towards him cuz he helped train Miley Cyrus (supposedly).

Oh, and thanks for the links to Symphony X. Quite enjoyable. ^_^
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Post by: enragedlobster on July 21, 2009, 09:50:36 am
I've got three good octaves outside of falsetto, without stretching my voice and may have four with those in.

Hell yeah.
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Post by: Skulryk on July 21, 2009, 10:35:12 am
I REALLY dislike falsetto ranges... They're so pathetic and weak. X(

Hence why I belt.
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Post by: KingRanter on July 21, 2009, 12:41:04 pm
Quote from: EnragedLobster
I've got three good octaves outside of falsetto, without stretching my voice and may have four with those in.

Hell yeah.
me as well. I also have a deeper voice than my father, and not because he has a high voice, because he doesn't.
Title: METAL
Post by: —- on July 21, 2009, 11:19:13 pm
Eeee, was itching to post something here. Didn't have time to check out any bands, but I did read the whole thread. With that said, wanted to throw out Opeth. C-Zom if you're juding me out there, somewhere, it's just for the one song Deleverence that I love to pieces. Awesome guitars and even though it's up there in long songs, it doesn't feel dragged out.

I'm not a fan of Dragonforce. I gave them an honest shot a while ago, I want to hear what their craziness would sound like on acoustic (if there's some acoustic Dragonforce song out there, I didn't see/hear it). It's like an explosion of talented guitarists... but like an explosion of guitars.

The only thing I know of Dio (that I can remember off the top of my head) was when he was in some silly movie, thought it was funny. :x So for that I like 'em.
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Post by: C-zom on July 22, 2009, 02:17:38 pm
I suggested Opeth in one of my posts. Don't worry, I'm not judging you from some evil tower plotting my hate against Opeth.  I'm not a big fan but they've got some cool stuff.

Dio was the best part of that movie. The name escapes me as well but it had jack black and wasn't really funny besides for Dio's scene and a couple others
Title: METAL
Post by: —- on July 22, 2009, 11:00:07 pm
Freaking what, no you didn't. I did not read the whole topic, not check the bands out and then be wrong about Opeth being mentioned. XD

Pick of Destiny? I never saw the whole thing. Just up to a little after him, and at the time I didn't know who he was from, but got some awesome vibes.
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Post by: enragedlobster on July 23, 2009, 03:06:22 pm
Between the Buried and Me - Progressive Metalcore/Mathcore
Prequel to the Sequel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWNMMuQzm-A)
Selkies: The Endless Obsession (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UZd_DKs2Q)

Likely the best metalcore band to ever have existed, Between the Buried and Me have some of the most complicated music I've ever heard. They slide smoothly between time and key signatures and even genres. Their vocalist, while typically using death vocals, has an excellent clean voice as well and has pulled off a convincing cover of Queen's Bicycle Race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4gOqhkkIZM). The band's influences are innumerable, spanning from the aforementioned Queen to Suffocation. Their latest and best album, Colors, is a single cohesive 64-minute song split up into 8 tracks.
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Post by: C-zom on August 04, 2009, 06:02:41 pm
Bump.
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Post by: Jenne on August 05, 2009, 07:59:39 am
Down - Supergroup including members of Pantara, Corrosion of Conformity, Crowbar and Eyehategod.  More CoC style music than Pantara, but still some cool stuff.  
Bury me in Smoke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRA3VgO3Vz0)
Ghosts Along the Mississippi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH4nmmhv-c8)
Beautifully Depressed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ETjXxBw5Y)

Corrosion of Conformity
Clean My Wounds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytCAdN4HvMs)
Vote With a oxet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zRQLENpGjU)

Rebel Meets Rebel - Country rock blend of legends David Allan Coe and Pantara
Cowboys Do More Dope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ30uEdQVeQ)
Nothin' to Lose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iuw_H5eYio)
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Post by: Aaron on August 05, 2009, 12:36:40 pm
Also Meshuggah.
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Post by: C-zom on August 05, 2009, 01:59:57 pm
anything at all that has anything to do with pantera is not a good thing or a supergroup sorry
Title: METAL
Post by: Jenne on August 05, 2009, 02:12:49 pm
Quote from: C-zom
anything at all that has anything to do with pantera is not a good thing or a supergroup sorry
Should I post some Damageplan too?
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Post by: triviuum on August 15, 2009, 03:04:11 pm
im going to see slipknot, black dahlia murder and anthrax september 1st.
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 05, 2009, 06:27:48 pm
Quote from: triviuum
im going to see slipknot, black dahlia murder and anthrax september 1st.
why
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 05, 2009, 06:37:42 pm
Protest the Hero - Progressive Metalcore/Mathcore

The Divine Suicide of K. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tREg7dG0AbQ)
Turn Soonest to the Sea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygUPP02XHwg)

These guys are an incredibly complex mathcore band. Every single member of this band is absolutely fantastic at their instruments and, while not afraid to show it, do so in a way that actually sounds good, unlike similar bands like Dream Theater. The guitars throw quick sweeps in all over the place, the drummer plays insanely technical beats almost all the time, and the vocalist rarely sings the same melody twice, yet still manages to write amazing anthemic choruses, as seen at the end of the two songs listed above. Their first major label album (let us not speak of their prior releases), Kezia, is one of my favorite albums of all time, however, I am ashamed to admit I've never given their supposedly superior follow-up, Fortress, a listen.
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Post by: triviuum on September 05, 2009, 09:29:38 pm
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Quote from: triviuum
im going to see slipknot, black dahlia murder and anthrax september 1st.
why
well they kick ass, and they got cancelled anyways.
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Post by: Skulryk on September 05, 2009, 10:40:48 pm
PAIN - Generation X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZK-dXZkDrw&feature=related)
PAIN - Shut Your Mouth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2gXMRoPv_M&feature=related)
PAIN - Feed Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEtm7ntjv5A&feature=related)

So I figured I'd mention this guy since nobody else did. Soooo... he does industrial metal. Whoo. I've noticed that with the (admittedly few) metal bands I listen to, my favorite tracks of theirs tend to be in the "industrial" genre. Probably explains why I like bands such as Rammstein. But anyways... back to the PAIN.

So he's pretty much a one-man band. Does all the vocals and instrumentals on his own (save for a few guest artists that tonic in to do solos for him occasionally), which I think is pretty epic, because he demonstrates quite a bit of fluency in a number of radically different instruments.

... I just like his music. A lot. >_> I can honestly say that so far, the only tracks I haven't liked are the ones he did that are covers of other people.
Title: METAL
Post by: enragedlobster on September 05, 2009, 11:12:13 pm
Quote from: triviuum
Quote from: EnragedLobster
Quote from: triviuum
im going to see slipknot, black dahlia murder and anthrax september 1st.
why
well they kick ass, and they got cancelled anyways.
slipknot are shitty, bdm are average, and anthrax were decent 20 years ago
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Post by: triviuum on September 05, 2009, 11:18:20 pm
Quote from: EnragedLobster
Quote from: triviuum
Quote from: EnragedLobster
Quote from: triviuum
im going to see slipknot, black dahlia murder and anthrax september 1st.
why
well they kick ass, and they got cancelled anyways.
slipknot are shitty, bdm are average, and anthrax were decent 20 years ago
idc what anybody thinks about the music from slipknot.. but honestly they would put on the best rock/metal show you could ever see..

they are not an average band, you cant get that anywhere else
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Post by: Jenne on September 06, 2009, 07:49:07 am
I like slipknot.  I would not put them on the top anything list, but they are not bad.  I saw them at Ozzfest several years back (~'01).  The show is fucked up on a level only GWAR can top.  Please explain the spiked headed dude banging his head on a drum for an hour.
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Post by: Rorick on September 06, 2009, 11:15:33 am
EH, I'll listen to just about any metal out there. Though I would recommend Disturbed and Dragonforce. I realy can't give an acurate description on how they play, so I'll let you guys decide:


Disturbed:

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']The Night[/a]

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']Prayer[/a]

Dragonforce:

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']Through the Fire and the Flames[/a]
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 06, 2009, 03:45:44 pm
Quote from: Rorick
Dragonforce:

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']Through the Fire and the Flames[/a]
get out

also Jenne, my cousin dated dave brockie (aka oderus urungus, the lead singer of gwar) for years
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Post by: triviuum on September 06, 2009, 04:03:16 pm
yeah neither dragonforce nor disturbed is metal. dragonforce was never good and disturbed does have some good songs tho are they are way overrated.
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Post by: Jenne on September 06, 2009, 04:37:57 pm
Quote from: Rorick
Disturbed:

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']The Night[/a]

[a href=\'index.php?act=findpost&pid=0\']Prayer[/a]
Wouldn't have been my first choices from them.  I really like their "Land of Confusion" cover.  'course, I liked the original.  Something about Reagan in a Superman outfit...

Quote from: EnragedLobster
[quote name='Rorick' post='334094'
also Jenne, my cousin dated dave brockie (aka oderus urungus, the lead singer of gwar) for years
Sweet.  I have been trying to go see them for years, but I can never get anyone to go with me.  They just played here earlier this year.
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Post by: Rorick on September 06, 2009, 05:38:31 pm
Quote from: triviuum
yeah neither dragonforce nor disturbed is metal. dragonforce was never good and disturbed does have some good songs tho are they are way overrated.

Unless you're meaning plain metal, then, yes they are metal. Dragonforce is is power/speed metal, and, while I admit that Disturbed is debated, they are considered Nu/Heavy Metal and Hard rock.
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 06, 2009, 05:55:13 pm
Nü-metal is not metal. It's basically hard rock with more distortion on the guitars.
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Post by: C-zom on September 06, 2009, 09:12:13 pm
Slipknot, best live show you'll ever see? I laughed for a good ten minutes
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 06, 2009, 10:13:10 pm
Yeah, I highly doubt a bunch of douchebags in masks trying to act badass is a good show. GWAR are different, as they're douchebags in masks being hilarious. Plus, they actually have good music, so I won't have a strong desire to gouge my ears out for the majority of the show.
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Post by: triviuum on September 06, 2009, 11:23:50 pm
yeah i dont get people who say they like rock/metal/any music with heavy guitar in it. if you dont like ANY slipknot songs then you are extremely picky and need to jus pick a dif type of music to listen to. im not a giant slipknot fan or nothin, ther not even my favorite band, but they have some kick ass songs there is NO doubt about that.
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Post by: triviuum on September 06, 2009, 11:25:24 pm
Quote from: C-zom
Slipknot, best live show you'll ever see? I laughed for a good ten minutes
for the kind of music i like, yes, they are.
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Post by: enragedlobster on September 07, 2009, 01:22:19 pm
Quote from: triviuum
yeah i dont get people who say they like rock/metal/any music with heavy guitar in it. if you dont like ANY slipknot songs then you are extremely picky and need to jus pick a dif type of music to listen to. im not a giant slipknot fan or nothin, ther not even my favorite band, but they have some kick ass songs there is NO doubt about that.
Did you just say I have picky taste in music? I probably listen to more genres than you do bands. I am one of the least picky people with regard to music you'll ever meet. I can listen to classical, death metal, jazz, country, and indie rock on the same day and I still think Slipknot are a terrible band that attempts to make up for their lack of talent by having far too many members and ripping off one of GWAR's gimmicks.
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Post by: C-zom on September 07, 2009, 10:19:29 pm
Acid Bath

1: Sludge Metal
2: Doom Metal
3: Everything in-between

Acid Bath was a short lived band of the above genres from Louisiana. At the time they didn't get popular and were lowly regarded but their popularity has spread immensely, selling more than 30k cd's with just an indie label and next to no funding and only two albums. Between their two albums they covered more than a dozen genres but the lyrics were always vididly poet, and foreboding. Subjects included drug addiction, rape, abortion and so on.

Acid Bath's instruments are usually heavily distorted with a reliance on reverb. Dax's vocals are often distorted, too, to the point of indistinquisable screams or sudden melodic passages behind a thick echo.  This creates a very ghostly and sometimes indifferent atmosphere that's not really for everyone. My top 3:

Tranquilized (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nL_mHm3cMo)
The Bones of Baby Dolls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjUa43c4DA)
Finger Paintings of the Insane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kMvCDCRb8A)
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Post by: C-zom on September 07, 2009, 10:30:07 pm
Reverend Bizarre

They were a short lived, modern doom metal band that hailed from Finland. They carry on the same sound as Candlemass, Trouble and even some Pentagram thrown in. While not diverse in almost any way they appeal to a wide audience of doom metal fans, covering Epic to Funeral doom. Their lyrics are extremely varied but mostly consist of religious taboos, dark fantasy and doom scenarios in general.

Albert Witchfinder is their rarely scene frontman, sporting an over the top vocal style that suits the band well and creates a distinct sound. Reverend Bizarre is not for lightweight listeners either, their songs are almost all over six minutes in length.

Good luck finding their songs on youtube! If you can find them, they're worth a listen
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Post by: Jenne on September 09, 2009, 03:53:15 pm
I heard a rumor today about an upcoming Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax tour.  I nearly spooged myself.
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Post by: ThisIsMyUsername on September 09, 2009, 05:16:56 pm
^I heard the same rumor. If the rumor turns out to be true that tour will be EPIC.  
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Post by: triviuum on September 09, 2009, 08:06:37 pm
anthrax wasnt good 15 yrs ago. idk why they are touring so much now
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Post by: C-zom on September 10, 2009, 01:47:13 pm
for the first time I agree with you, anthrax pretty much sucks. Replace them with Exodus or Testament or Kreator and I'd see that tour in a heartbeat
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Post by: Jenne on September 10, 2009, 02:29:25 pm
Quote from: C-zom
for the first time I agree with you, anthrax pretty much sucks. Replace them with Exodus or Testament or Kreator and I'd see that tour in a heartbeat
You'd skip a tour of that magnitude just because you didn't like one of the four bands?  I don't really see any of those as a better act than Anthrax anyway.
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Post by: C-zom on September 11, 2009, 04:56:36 pm
Megadeth is way, way better than any of the other bands on that list.