Random Insanity Alliance Forum, Mark V
Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: John Walker on April 15, 2009, 08:51:51 pm
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Should I join it when its time. I mean before college. I think I should because I have no money to pay for it and the air force would pay all of my tutition. I want opinions and any info you know of the airforce.
If someone has been in the air force please let me know about it there.
Also do not give me the website to the air force, I already know it.
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Join the New Zealand Airforce instead.
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Haha no offense but U.S. is the best out there and I'll never give that chance up.
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I guess it all depends on your opinion of it and whether you feel it is the right place for you.
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Do you like planes?
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my brother served in the army for 10 years after graduating from west point
and they wouldn't pay for his college when he tried to leave
so I think he joined the navy
he's a member of this alliance, 'OFudd'
if he's still even playing
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oshit I didnt know Ofudd was ur brudder. That's awesome.
Anyway I usually hear good things about people in the air force.
Here's what you should do first: Take some flying lessons, ask them to pull "4 G's", then try to do it yourself. If you can do that, maybe you can cut it as a pilot. I say maybe because they'll ask for 7-9 G's.
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lol @ dontasemebro
Air Force is alright and you don't have to be a pilot. Go talk to a recruiter if you're serious. You can have them pay for your school up front with the promise that you'll serve after you graduate. Ask the recruiter about it if you're interested in that.
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But remeber the Air Force isn't always for pilots, it's for engineers also. And I think that's what I'm going to be.
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How relevant is college for engineers in the Airforce?
If you don't need it I don't see much point in going to college and you might as well just head straight into the Airforce.
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The Air Force seems great and has wonderful benefits it's just I have other goals in life and I plan to pursue with all of them. But just staying in the Air Force may be a good option.
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Can you still achieve these other goals while you are in the Airforce or do they exclude eachother?
Also goals change mine seem to change at least once a year.
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Well before everything I never thought of going into the military. I was recently thinking about it and figured it would be good for me if I joined because it would help in so many ways. I guess what I'm saying is they exclude each other.
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I guess it depends on these other goals. My dad was in the navy for years. Along the way, he worked for a hostage negotiation firm in Miami, and eventually retired from the navy as a Commander and moved into the foreign service. Eventually, they sent him and us here to Kentucky to help with the construction and operation of a new government building. We liked the area, so he moved into Civil Service and we've been here for about 9 years now.
I'm saying this to show you that you can achieve goals if you know what you're doing. My dad graduated from VMI before joining the navy, and he is a very smart man who could do a lot of different things. He's even a deacon in the Catholic Church. So obviously, he has found a way to pursue all of his goals, plus I have two older brothers, one who has his degree and is now in China, and another who is about to graduate and is in Finland while I have another year left before college. The future can change, and hopefully when you get there, you'll be proud. Just listen to others and think for yourself at the same time,, learning that perfect balance to life may be the most important thing you can ever learn.
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Tell your dad he's a good man.
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Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never trust a recruiter for any branch of the military.
/not saying don't serve, just get everything in writing and read ever bit of it three times before signing.
//hell, bring the papers home and ask your parents to go through it with you.
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If you want to get honest feedback about the military, try to find a vet or two to talk to. The older, the better. I've talked with some WW2 vets in my day and I've never heard more interesting stories and facts. I even talked to one who was in the Luftwaffe. Apparently, the battle of britain was an intentional failure cause they thought Sealion was oxshit.
Or so he said. ANYWAY, as for the US military its shit honesty wise. 50% chance you won't get after-service benefits like college money. 70% mortality from sore ass syndrome if you join the airforce.
etc etc
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DW has a good idea. Writing is good, but try to get the degree first, service second since the government can screw you without your consent. That said, as long as you can handle the military, it might be one of the most reliable jobs during a recession.
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My sisters boyfriend is a test pilot for the Air Force, He makes about $80,000 a year.
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Well, John, My dad was an EA, an engineer assistant, when he was in the OANG, Ohio Air National Guard. He says that you wouldn't be an actual engineer until you became an officer, but you'd still learn basic engineering from tech school. After TS, you'd be sent where you were needed, be it civil engineering, building inspection, or the like. He says to basicly look at the AF sight to read up on what you'd do as an EA. Though he told me that the EA jobs are becoming limited, as they are being contracted out more and more to civilians.
He says you best bet for college, and becoming an engineer would be to commit to ROTC, as they would pay for college, but you'd have to commit to the AF afterwords for a number of years. You'd go into the AF as an officer though.
As for college funding, the OANG funds 100% of your college, though that's all my dad can vouch for.
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Hmm...I was a recruiter for the US Army...I see potential for you...j/k. I sucked at it. I was always up front. I guess thats what killed me as a recruiter.
But anywho,
College is always accounted for in any of the US Armed Forces. Its not singular based on branch of service. All tuition and such is covered, except for books. If you want you can use your GI bill to pay for those. Thats what I did.
In all honesty I am glad I did my schooling while in the service than outside of service, like my wife did. We still feel abit of the sting in the wallet when we pay the goverment back for them covering her College before entering. They paid off her debt, but we still owe that debt back, well to a certain degree. Yeah it helped in honesty in the long run. But like for me, I never saw it kicking my wallet in the sack.
But as far as a way to sum up the Services to what you want here is a guideline I used when I first considered joining, (oh god, that was in 1996):
1. Navy/Coast Guard is good for tech jobs, sea-farer positions, and medical. Though Coasties are 75% on American coastal waters.
2. Marine Corps is good for the inner kick ass in you, while being screamed at for not being hardcore. Basically the jolly green fighting machine. While having a majority of itself being sea to land warfare.
3. Air Force is good for engineering, tech, air warfare, as well as all around general security. I don't count pilot stuff exactly here as each branch has aerial support. (I live on a Air Force installation in Germany, I feel better here than the Army bases. The Air Force bases are guarded by Air Force and a few local counterparts, where the Army posts are guarded by a contracted company)
4. Army is great for all around jobs. It out of all the branches has more jobs than the other branches. You can be a bridge building engineer to a ground pounding grunt, to a x-ray tech to a veterinarian. Also it is the only branch where being promoted from E-1 to E-4 is automatic. Though honestly its not my cup of tea, I think they all should fight over E-4, keeps out the lazy people but it was a selling point when I recruited.
All in all, if you consider joining ANY of the said Services, remember one main thing, Always Always Always, one more to grow on ALWAYS, get any promise, assurance, etc on paper before you sign. From the begining to now during my career I always heard of so and so getting ripped off because Mr. Recruiter said he/she would get this. If its not on paper it ain't gonna happen.