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Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: The Immortal Panic on July 21, 2007, 01:21:06 pm
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Ok, I finished in 7hrs, 3 minutes of straight reading, so I was done by 847 this morning. Who else finished?
Any thoughts? I'm in LOVE with the epilogue/ginny! Also, harry DOESN'T die? I totally figured that he would(oh hells yeah he was a horcux!)
COME ON YOU NERDS! talk to me!
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Finished it in 4 hours straight reading.
I was disappointed in the ending. I want a grim ending, I don't want a happy ending. Honestly, it felt like an ending to a god damn Fan Fiction. Completely forced, and all happy. I mean, Fred, Lupin, and Tonks died, but honestly, IMO, the epilogue ruined it. Especially with naming the kids after Dumbledore, James, and Lily. Felt so forced. Personally, like I said, I would've wanted Harry to die.
And on a side note, did anyone else feel like Rowling was catering to fan's theories? Honestly, Harry a horcrux and Snape being in love with Lily and killing Dumbledore because he asked him too. Felt forced.
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I hated the names too. I think that I just wanted that though. Maybe theres just already enough bad things, but I want my fiction to make me happier, to be a distraction. I'm not saying your wrong Shamed, just saying I was looking for something different from the book then you. And I think that I would have preferred a longer end to the battle, That is to say, the usual postbattle recap then an epilogue 19 years down the line. Something along the lines of LOTR(the book that is). Still, I'm a HUGE sucker for the romantic sidestory, and I still LOVE ginny. so that works well.
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Dude, I'm a hopeless romantic. I just keep it hidden most of the time.
I love happy endings as much as the next guy, but it just felt so...forced.
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I sometimes wonder how many of us dudes really are hopeless romantics...It feels like we all want that kind of love, its just hard to find.
But more to the point, I actually kinda see what you mean as I reflect more. The epilogue kinda disapointed me a bit, I wish they would have done like 50 pages to go through the course of those 19 years, or even the rest of harry's likfe would have been better, than he could have died naturally the "master of death" like the third brother? it would have seemed FAR more appropriate.
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No, I'm all for the 'thinking what happens on your own' ending. Honestly, it would've been cool, but it would have been completely OOC for him.
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How did you guys finish it so quickly?
It took me 13 hours.
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*Is sad that they killed Hedwig*
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Neville kicked ass. I liked the part with kreacher. The battle scene with Voldemort and Harry felt rushed. I thought th epilogue was cool.
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I don't know how the hell anyone can read that in one sitting... Ever since the 5th book I've been saying Harry would sacrifice himself in order to kill Voldemort. So there I was feeling so smart when he did, only to find out he actually survived. Also Dumbledore's explanation at the end was confusing as hell.
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loved seeing a different side of dumbledore.
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I've just finished it, I wasn't counting hours, took me a long ass time to do. I wasn't reading the entire time, and I didn't read more than a few pages yesterday.
There are some things I REALLY liked about the book. But...
Some things just felt out of place in some ways.
But in some ways, how things ended made it feel REALLY good... But there are definitely questions that she needs to answer. She DEFINITELY didn't wrap up everything. I figured the epilogue would've been her wrapping up everything and finishing it all, but there was so much left unsaid.
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yeah, i finished it earlier today. not sure how long it took. 8 hours maybe?
anyway, i really rather missed having hogwarts as a setting. its much more interesting than the forest. but then again, we finally got to see some places that only had been talked about before (godrics hollow especially). i liked how lots of random things came together, like the whole house elf thing. did anyone notice that the whole concept of casting spells without talking was ignored in all except the sixth book? oh, and i was really surprised that the book took place in 1997 (according to the gravestones). did i miss some mention of the date before? and didnt dudley have a playstation in the third book (1993)? i thought it came out in 1995... lol
im glad she took the whole "harry is a horcrux" thing and twisted it to fool you by making him live.
oh, and i was kind of right with my (joke) theory of hermione getting pregnant! yay!
so, what are the chances of a new series about james potter (or one of those other kids) appearing? after all, harry touched his scar at the end...
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so, what are the chances of a new series about james potter (or one of those other kids) appearing? after all, harry touched his scar at the end...
I'm going to shoot her in the face if she ever does that... Plus, it wouldn't be very interesting to me.
However, she did talk about releasing an encyclopedia type thing with all of the info that she didn't use in the books.
And Kaiser definitely read a link in the thread we were looking at.
Ironically, I knew that the hog's head barman was Aberforth.
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When I was rereading the books earlier this month, I noticed so many foreshadowings of Harry's death. Then he died and I was like "I was right!," then he came back to life and I was like "damn."
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When I was rereading the books earlier this month, I noticed so many foreshadowings of Harry's death. Then he died and I was like "I was right!," then he came back to life and I was like "damn."
yeah me too. she did a really good job with that, i think.
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It was generally good except i felt there were some plot holes, especially in the epilogue which in my opinion sucked.
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Ok, I finished in 7hrs, 3 minutes of straight reading, so I was done by 847 this morning. Who else finished?
Any thoughts? I'm in LOVE with the epilogue/ginny! Also, harry DOESN'T die? I totally figured that he would(oh hells yeah he was a horcux!)
COME ON YOU NERDS! talk to me!
I finished in about 5 hours. I liked the epilogue. Now I want to know what happens between the end and the epilogue. And technicallly he does die he just comes back to life.
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so, what are the chances of a new series about james potter (or one of those other kids) appearing? after all, harry touched his scar at the end...
I'm going to shoot her in the face if she ever does that... Plus, it wouldn't be very interesting to me.
However, she did talk about releasing an encyclopedia type thing with all of the info that she didn't use in the books.
And Kaiser definitely read a link in the thread we were looking at.
Ironically, I knew that the hog's head barman was Aberforth.
Wasnt it mentioned in like book 5 or 6? Not very surprising.
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i actually really liked the book/epilogue, i just think that there should have been more to it. i mean, OOTP was what, like, 750 pages long? This one was only 600, i feel that JK could have added more to the actual story, and even more to the epilogue.
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On the subject of the Epilogue, I'll take a quote from RI; I forget who it was: "HIDEOUS EPILOGUE IS HIDEOUS! DO NOT WANT!"
Also, too many deus ex machinas for me. As shamed said, it was very forced towards the end. Also, after the part with the silver doe, everything got WAY too predictable. I saw everything that happened from there to the end coming.
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i actually really liked the book/epilogue, i just think that there should have been more to it. i mean, OOTP was what, like, 750 pages long? This one was only 600, i feel that JK could have added more to the actual story, and even more to the epilogue.
did you have the uk version? this one is 759 pages long in the us.
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I hated the epilogue. I want to know what happens between the end and the 19 years later.
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Sister inlaw got the book I read the last chapter My Idea was complity right. sorry egg but you know Hope i did not kill it for you egg
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i actually really liked the book/epilogue, i just think that there should have been more to it. i mean, OOTP was what, like, 750 pages long? This one was only 600, i feel that JK could have added more to the actual story, and even more to the epilogue.
OOTP was around 900 pages long. she should have added more to the plot because it seemed like she left out a lot of stuff that confused me in the end.
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For me, it was available at 7 pm EST on Friday. I am win.
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i got it for $19
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I didn't actually spend any of my money.
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same, my mom bought it
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I paid 18.99 for mine with my money. Just like my car only take off about 5.99 bucks and add two zeros.
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i just finished i didn't read it straight but i thought it was amazing! There was some things that were confusing and i agree with whoever said that Dumboldore confused me at the end, but it all pretty much fell together. Personally i knew all along there was no way harry was gunna die i mean come on! even after snape's memory i still knew he would come back. AND why shamed would you want a grom ending that would be terrible. I know it sounds dorky but after seven books and many years of Harry Potter those characters are kinda real to me at least in a way, and honestly now that it is totally done i can't believe it!
but a few specifics about the book
OMFG how could hedwig die i practically cried!!
AND lupin and tonks thats sad too and i was totally confused with the epilogue who took care of their baby wasn't harry the godfather why the hell didn't he do it?
why did dobby die he rocked so much that was sad too
actually pretty much everyone that died was really sad especiallt fred the twins were always some of my farovites
i also couldnt believe there were two deaths in like the first 100 pages that was so sad
as far as the epilogue goes they arent supposed to tell everything i was jstu glad to see they all got married and happy its not an account of the rest of life jsut an idea for the future
i must admit though i was surprised snape was good it was kinda heart warming in a sick kinda way
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well i just got my copy 2 days ago because i was gone.
It kicked ass but there were flaws
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yeah i wondered the same thing about teddy (lupin and tonks' kid). maybe he did live with harry though, because he would be 19 (and would have moved out) by the time the epilogue happened.
my gf is so distraught about hedwig and dobby. the humans dont matter, but hedwig and dobby are just awesome.
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I don't know if anyone's said this, but the Epilogue was wrote after JK finished the first book
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REALLY? I didn't know that?
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That's why it felt out of place
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With the eplilogue, I felt they left out what happened to a few key characters. Luna, the weasleys, Teddy, etc.
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i wonder what happened to the dursleys
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DUDE?! yeah what the hell happend to them? and dudly!?
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i thought they were susposed to die at some point 0.o
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Yeah, I got it when it came out but just finished it. I didn't read it straight through, I took plenty of breaks. I was actually kinda expecting Ron or Hermione to die since it would have been "sad" and all that. Unfortunately, they killed Fred(must've been George, he wants the business all to himself) and Mad-Eye. C'MON, how do you kill a guy with a name like Mad-Eye.
I was kind of disappointed at Snape being good, but whatever. One last thing, what the **** was up with that baby!? They never really explained and it confused me the whole time they were there.
I just thought, how did Neville get the sword of Gryffindor? I thought the goblins took it!?
I am so confused now, I should never have come here to talk about the book.*opens book to look about Neville and sword*
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Nevermind. I just read about it. The book gives it like eight words and then kills the snake. Yeah, I must've accidentally skipped over a lot of stuff the book was so long. Now I gotta write a report on it for school. That's gonna be fun.
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paha. Ya i just finished. I also took PLENTY of breaks because i got it right when it came out. Ya what the hecll was up with that baby thing. Was that Arian to make Dumbledore suffer or what? But ya. I thought it was very good but the epilogue was confusing because i kept thinking that like the real James was there but it was the kid and i kept getting screwed up with which kid was whose. Also Ted was "snogging" with some chick somewhere. He was pretty close to the family. (he better have been because Harry was the godfather).
Overall i thought it was the best one.
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I thought that the little baby was the part of Voldemort's soul that got killed when Harry "died."
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I had those two thoughts. Ariana or Voldemort's soul. Voldmort's soul would be a better guess though.
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I'm almost certain it was Voldemort's soul. It had the same discription as the one in The Goblet of Fire.
Also I liked the book I thought it was easily the best of them all. However the Epilogue was bad. I hated the name's. I thought one of the kids would be named after Fred.
As for Lupin. Tonk's mom was alive so she would have taken care of him
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I thought it was a great book, probably her best writing ever (even though a great whack of it is them running around not knowing what to do, which was kind of boring), but the epilogue was somewhat boring. I think she wanted to use it to put the series at an end, nothing is happening out of the ordinary and stuff like that. She left a lot of bodies lying around, though, as a writer, I can't stand to kill my characters. I don't like Ron and Hermione together.
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I don't like how there were tons of dead people and they didn't reveal many except like Colin Creevy who I really didn't care about. Now if it was like Seamus I would have. I wanted to find out about like them also
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i was kinda wondering the same thing. If there was like 50 dead who else were they? and in the epilogue what happened to everyone else like hagrid and the other weasley brothers? I thought the little baby was voldermorts soul also because remember when harry became alive again voldermort was also getting off the groung thus impling that he also got hurt by the curse. and leo what did happen with neville having the sword was his the fake one or what because i don;t remember reading that? but all and all it was a great book I think she jsut kinda rushed to the end.
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so, what are the chances of a new series about james potter (or one of those other kids) appearing? after all, harry touched his scar at the end...
I'm going to shoot her in the face if she ever does that... Plus, it wouldn't be very interesting to me.
However, she did talk about releasing an encyclopedia type thing with all of the info that she didn't use in the books.
And Kaiser definitely read a link in the thread we were looking at.
Ironically, I knew that the hog's head barman was Aberforth.
Wasnt it mentioned in like book 5 or 6? Not very surprising.
He said he looked familiar. Aberforth was one of the only people I felt would be important enough for him to be familiar whom Harry had already seen.
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I'm almost certain it was Voldemort's soul. It had the same discription as the one in The Goblet of Fire.
Also I liked the book I thought it was easily the best of them all. However the Epilogue was bad. I hated the name's. I thought one of the kids would be named after Fred.
As for Lupin. Tonk's mom was alive so she would have taken care of him
Which description was that? It's been a while since I read that
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when wormtail put him in the pot to get his bosy back
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I'm almost certain it was Voldemort's soul. It had the same discription as the one in The Goblet of Fire.
Also I liked the book I thought it was easily the best of them all. However the Epilogue was bad. I hated the name's. I thought one of the kids would be named after Fred.
As for Lupin. Tonk's mom was alive so she would have taken care of him
Which description was that? It's been a while since I read that
When he gets put into to cauldron at the end, he's described as a fetus with cracked, freakish skin.
Yeah, it was Voldemort's soul.
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why though did dumboldore not simply say jsut ignore it it is voldormorts screwy 1/8 of a soul since the rest is dead
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Ah ok thx guys
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why though did dumboldore not simply say jsut ignore it it is voldormorts screwy 1/8 of a soul since the rest is dead
No, he said that there was nothing they could do for it. It was too far gone, and could never understand simple things, like love. He hadn't ever matured that way, and was represented by being a feeble child for that reason.
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i thought it was good, but when they make the movie, they better make DAMN sure to include EVERYTHING that was in the last 125 pages, i will kill the screen-writer if they dont
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Can anyone tell me how neville got gryffindor's sword at the end of the book? I can't seem to figure it out.
Edit:Leo asked the same question...so this can be ignored.
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Okay, for the two of you who didn't want to look it up, go back to where Neville is caught on fire. It's right after the hat falls off his head.
For you lazy people, here's the exact quote:
In one swift, fluid motion, Neville broke free of the Body-Bind Curse upon him; the flaming hat fell off him and he drew from its depths something silver, with a glittering, rubied handle-
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He pulled it out of the hat because only a "True Gryffindor" can own it. It mentions that in The chamber of secrets.
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J.K. Rowling said two characters would die. Hedwig and Dobby aren't human, so take them out. Then as I read more and more, the list grew to... more than two. Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Colin, and I'm sure I'm forgetting people.
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I think the 2 main one's where Fred and Lupin.
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Not Mad-Eye?
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I thought it was a good book and near the end of the book i was like ok when does the snitch come back
but dumbeldore was ruined for me
one thing is that the book never confirmed the snake was a horcrux
I knew ron and hermioni wre going to end up together when ron was screaming at the manor
I liked in the three brothers tale how the third brother greets Death like an old friend
And yes the epilouge did leave a lot of holes like about other characters and why 19 years and who is the girl ted is making out with?
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the girl is victoire (delacoeur) weasley
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that is one of my guesses but you can not be sure, can you?
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It could have been Percy's or Charlies or even George's daughter. However I think it is Bill's.
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Oh i see...man i read over that part like 5 times too. Thanks for clearing that up.
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The book did sort of confirm that Nagini was a horcrux. When Voldemort found out Harry knew about them, He kept the snake close and put that magical barrier over him/her/it
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yeah, good point ganon, because voldemort "loved" the snake, so why would he put that barrier up if it wasnt a horcrux knowing that harry would try and kill it.
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are you agreeing with me or being sarcastic?
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If the snake wasn't a Horcrux then why right after he learned the Horcrux's were in danger he put the spell's around the snake? Also If voldemort was still alive why wouldn't Harry's scare have hurt him over the 19 years?
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are you agreeing with me or being sarcastic?
no, im actually agreeing with you
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are you agreeing with me or being sarcastic?
no, im actually agreeing with you
Oh. Awesome XD
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Also If voldemort was still alive why wouldn't Harry's scare have hurt him over the 19 years?
Because Voldemort was dead
All his horcruxes were gone
1. Diary- Harry
2. Ring- Dumbeldore
3. Locket- Ron
4. Cup- Hermione
5. Diadem- Crabbe (Goyle)
6. Harry's part- Voldemort (When Voldemort cast the Killing Curse at Harry in the forest he destroyed the part of him residing in Harry)
7. Snake- Neville (Woot!)
8. Voldemort himself- Harry
It is kinda funny actually how only one person destroyed more than one Horcrux
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lol thanks for listing everytime i try to go over them i forget one
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I actually really enjoyed this book. The best in the series, in my opinion. I couldn't truly find fault in how the pieces fell together. And it was just so different from its predecessors. Great book, can't wait to reread the entire series sometime and find all the foreshadowing/hintings.
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Thats exactly what I'm doing right now Flask.