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Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: smeeth on August 04, 2007, 02:31:59 am

Title: Love
Post by: smeeth on August 04, 2007, 02:31:59 am
Can you love someone so much you'd rather see them happy with someone else than you, because their happiness means more than yours?

Discuss.
Title: Love
Post by: Mr_Cynic on August 04, 2007, 11:12:36 am
Actually, at the age of 15, yes.  >_>
Title: Love
Post by: 1ofkind on August 04, 2007, 11:59:23 am
Quote from: smeeth
Can you love someone so much you'd rather see them happy with someone else than you, because their happiness means more than yours?

Discuss.
It's a simple question, and obviously is the answer, dumbass.
Title: Love
Post by: smeeth on August 04, 2007, 01:27:15 pm
Stfu asshole. I'm trying to bring some discussion. You don't have to be a fucking asshole to everyone.
Title: Love
Post by: Delta1212 on August 04, 2007, 02:11:02 pm
I suppose. I've recently found out that most cliches about love are actually true.
Title: Love
Post by: Castille on August 04, 2007, 02:31:10 pm
smeeth i love you that was an awesome ownage of 1ofakind. and yeah you can i think at least to an extent but itll still hurt you an extrodanrly large amount
Title: Love
Post by: smeeth on August 04, 2007, 03:45:04 pm
Thanks Castille. You're quite nifty, I likes you!

But ya, I'm in this situation right now. I'd explain more but two of my friends are in this alliance. >_> Damn you Kaiser and Greg!
Title: Love
Post by: Jukers on August 04, 2007, 04:14:43 pm
I have been in this position before, and to some extent at this exact moment. I've dealt with both sides and it isn't a tea party for either end.

I offer advice if you want it and perhaps I can fill you in on my dilemma.
Title: Love
Post by: Chaos Poet on August 04, 2007, 06:14:27 pm
That is the worst feeling of love evar. Them with someone else thats not you and you just keep on telling yourself....It is for their happiness. Man, i'm feeling really depressed by this.
Title: Love
Post by: The Immortal Panic on August 04, 2007, 06:20:49 pm
The vast majority of all Love is unrequited Love. Such love is selfless in nature but in general can become a painfully destructive manner of being.
Title: Love
Post by: Jukers on August 04, 2007, 06:43:46 pm
True that TIP.

Oh no, be careful, cause this might make the alliance more serious! *rolls eyes*

Unrequited love can kill you inside.
Title: Love
Post by: Chaos Poet on August 04, 2007, 07:15:55 pm
KENNY WHY WONT YOU LOVE ME, I'VE GIVEN SO MUCH TO YOU NOW LOVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Love
Post by: —- on August 04, 2007, 07:28:12 pm
To answer this question. Yes =/
Title: Love
Post by: schneereich on August 05, 2007, 12:41:36 am
yes, i believe so. i'd say more but i also have friends in the alliance who need not know what im talking about... sorry!

lol, smeeth & castille, i agree.
Title: Love
Post by: evil greg guy on August 05, 2007, 12:59:27 am
yeah, ive noticed that 1ofkind replies like that everywhere, but brandon, honestly, you didnt need to post here to know the answer, you already knew. Look at your friends. Any of the longer lasting couples know that. Kurt and Nikky, me and Alli (hopefully), you probably already knew the answer.
Title: Love
Post by: Shyox on August 05, 2007, 01:04:58 am
Listen, if you think she's the one, and I mean you have to be POSITIVE, then you should go and get her. Or him.
Title: Love
Post by: 1ofkind on August 05, 2007, 01:20:19 am
Quote from: smeeth
Stfu asshole. I'm trying to bring some discussion. You don't have to be a fucking asshole to everyone.

Well if you'd only think a little more past the part where you remember to suck up your spit so that you don't droll perhaps you could bring up an interesting topic then, because this is just pathetic, but here maybe I can help you. I feel bad for you now. Well I believe I herd somebody say you're 15 somebody said so that's what I'm going by. Well at the age of 15 you're relationships are going to go nowhere. The maturity to understand what discipline in needed to maintain a relationship is just not there. After a while someone's guna get tired of someone, and look for somebody else. Matter of fact the younger the worse it is. Where I'm from there's little 11 year old sluts, and 12 year old girls pregnant. Maybe I'm actually from hell, but from as far as I can see your relationships are just going to be jokes for a while, and you should just be passive with them ending it's dead of being another future happily divorced couple.


Quote from: Castille
smeeth i love you that was an awesome ownage of 1ofakind. and yeah you can i think at least to an extent but itll still hurt you an extrodanrly large amount

You're the kind of guy that sees things backwards. Hey, adolf hitler saved the jews right?
Title: Love
Post by: Delta1212 on August 05, 2007, 01:29:53 am
I would never rather see someone I loved with somebody else. If hey didn't feel they same way, however, I wouldn't pursue it. Even if my chest did literally feel like it had been ripped open for about twelve hours after she disappeared for an hour and a half with another guy...before I told her how I felt. Hypothetically speaking, of course. >_> <_< >_>
Title: Love
Post by: —- on August 05, 2007, 01:34:11 am
Well, if you really liked 'em, to the point where them being happy is more important then yourself being happy, and they were more happy with someone else, I'd find a way to live with it.
Title: Love
Post by: Delta1212 on August 05, 2007, 01:39:47 am
Quote from: Loren
Well, if you really liked 'em, to the point where them being happy is more important then yourself being happy, and they were more happy with someone else, I'd find a way to live with it.

If they like someone else and not me, I'm not gonna force myself on them. I'd probably just stop liking them. If I didn't enjoy the exquisitely intense emotional rollercoatser I'm on right now, I really would get off. I'm kind of afraid of how much conscious control I have over my emotional state. It really doesn't feel normal...which is actually the reason I think I'm letting my self torture myself over this girl. I don't usually feel anything where other people are concerned. It's an intereting change of pace.
Title: Love
Post by: Drumline on August 05, 2007, 10:47:05 am
Dude i know what you are talking about. You like them so much that you think they deserve the best in the world. But then something hits you that says i am not the best for her. And you think she should find someone else because she will be happier. its a bitch to think but if you really love them. Thats the option
Title: Love
Post by: smeeth on August 05, 2007, 01:38:01 pm
I don't see why you bothered posting in the thread then 1ofkind... If this makes me seem like an idiot to you and all you're going to do is call me an idiot, then don't bother posting. It's that simple.
Title: Love
Post by: Ananegg on August 05, 2007, 09:31:54 pm
What is love? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo)
Title: Love
Post by: Castille on August 06, 2007, 12:26:36 am
1ofakind
1. i am a girl this has been posted approximaly a million times on these discussions so <_<
2. i agree with the too young thing but u didnt need to be that mean jsut be nice u know
Title: Love
Post by: Vector on August 06, 2007, 01:10:34 am
love is a bitch
(long story)
end of teh story
Title: Love
Post by: Castille on August 06, 2007, 03:05:39 am
lol well said
Title: Love
Post by: bioakky on August 06, 2007, 03:21:50 am
Then if you can manage to make love pee, you can go steal all the stuff you want from a house guarded by a trained dog.
Title: Love
Post by: —- on August 06, 2007, 01:42:17 pm
Quote from: Vector
love is a bitch
(long story)
end of teh story

This.


 
Title: Love
Post by: Kiss Goodbye on August 06, 2007, 01:59:09 pm
Can you?  Yes.

Is it real stupid to do so?  Also yes, unless you mean brotherly love rather than romantic love.  And this isn't CE, the two are not one and the same.
Title: Love
Post by: Fortress on August 06, 2007, 11:26:59 pm
I'd like to comment that no matter how hopeless or pointless this seems because of the lack of practicality, there's still no harm in discussing an ideal, because all things I believe should come through an ideal first and then determined for practicality second. It makes living a lot more interesting.

I believe unrequited love is silly, but only because it usually involves a simple crush or infatuation with little to no actual experience or interaction. It's tragic otherwise because the term implies that you're doomed after everything you've tried has failed.

Otherwise, if there is even the slightest chance, I think that someone should go for it. Love itself is selfish, and to deny a selfish desire a chance is going to hurt no matter what, because it's basically a chemical dependency that needs to be killed off by other experiences. The entire idea of thinking that someone will be happier and better off without you, I think, is just plain stupid, because why would you cause yourself so much pain? I've heard my friend's ex-girlfriend use that as an excuse to break up - "If you really love me that much you'll see that I'm not happy with you." To be done that by someone else is just mean and not a great excuse, and to be done that by yourself is just plain denial.

Of course, there are circumstances... but by then, you should have had enough maturity and had enough negative experiences involving the other person to realize that it's making you extremely unhappy by continuing to think that way. Thought should always come before action... and although I may sound definite, I really am not. Things for each situation are entirely different and no one solution fits all, one just has to review experiences and come to a better understanding that affects you positively... or end up in depression.
Title: Love
Post by: —- on August 07, 2007, 12:56:56 am
Quote from: Fortress
I'd like to comment that no matter how hopeless or pointless this seems because of the lack of practicality, there's still no harm in discussing an ideal, because all things I believe should come through an ideal first and then determined for practicality second. It makes living a lot more interesting.

I believe unrequited love is silly, but only because it usually involves a simple crush or infatuation with little to no actual experience or interaction. It's tragic otherwise because the term implies that you're doomed after everything you've tried has failed.

Otherwise, if there is even the slightest chance, I think that someone should go for it. Love itself is selfish, and to deny a selfish desire a chance is going to hurt no matter what, because it's basically a chemical dependency that needs to be killed off by other experiences. The entire idea of thinking that someone will be happier and better off without you, I think, is just plain stupid, because why would you cause yourself so much pain? I've heard my friend's ex-girlfriend use that as an excuse to break up - "If you really love me that much you'll see that I'm not happy with you." To be done that by someone else is just mean and not a great excuse, and to be done that by yourself is just plain denial.

Of course, there are circumstances... but by then, you should have had enough maturity and had enough negative experiences involving the other person to realize that it's making you extremely unhappy by continuing to think that way. Thought should always come before action... and although I may sound definite, I really am not. Things for each situation are entirely different and no one solution fits all, one just has to review experiences and come to a better understanding that affects you positively... or end up in depression.

That's what it all ends up being. You're sad when they're gone, you're sad when they ignore you, you're sad when their sad, etc. Too crazy.