Random Insanity Alliance Forum, Mark V
Cactuar Zone => Random lnsanity => Topic started by: rlrcstrnthusiast on October 11, 2011, 02:08:57 am
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...the promotion I'll officially receive next month will increase my gross annual income by approximately $12000 a year. Best part about it is I can, in theory, get promoted within a few months. :awesome:
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Heh, I live on less than $6,000 (NZD) a year at the moment.
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I live on a wonderful 0 dollars a year due to the job economy being a joke so bad I can't even think of a comparable metaphor.
My 2011 application folder is 180 applications submitted, 15 interviews, 0 call backs.
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I work at In-N-Out Burger: one of the few quick-service places where you actually make pretty good money. I'll probably make just shy of $30,000 this year. I'll be the lowest level of management starting next month.
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My promotion just got me an extra $25k (AUD) :P
But damn, $18 to $30 is one hell of a jump. If only all promotions nearly doubled your salary!
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Fuck you. You make that much at a burger place?
I'm going to kill myself.
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You can make that much at fast food places in general if you stay long enough to be promoted to manager positions. Downside is you're essentially made to work more hours and do more than one job in this type of economy. Money is money though.
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The economy is a fucking disaster. The only reason it's not a second Great Depression is the fucking bankers still have their jobs.
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Most everyone with an education has a job. I heard a stat the other day that unemployment among those with college degrees is 5%, those with high school diplomas is around 9%, and those without is over 15%. Wow, maybe knocking up your sister and dropping out of high school to pay for the hair lip surgery was not such a good idea.
Yet despite that, there are still morons who complain that low end jobs that can easily created by gov action are not what we need because they don't pay enough. But, those are the ones who need jobs. Sorry if I dont feel the need to overpay some retard who made a choice not to finish the 3rd grade because they thought they were already smarter than a 5th grader.
And dont fucking bitch to me about the Mexicans taking your jobs. They are doing the jobs you think you are too fucking good for anyway. Go back to school, get your fucking GED and become a lead janitor in charge of them.
There are something like 3 million tech job out there that cannot be filled because there are simply not enough qualified candidates to fill them. Part of that is simple geography issues, in that the people without jobs are not in the same area as the jobs and are unwilling or unable to move. But it's amazing. Get an education, get a job. Funny how that works.
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u mad
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I make roughly 20kish a year.
And I'm a student :D
Guess it helps to have 3 jobs.
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I make a grand total of aprox. $105 (USD) a year when factoring in birthdays and Christmas.... Oh wait, that is birthday and Christmas.
Seriously though, I was turned down for a server job at fucking Pizza Hut because I "Didn't meet the qualifications for any available positions."
^I got that reply less than a day after I submitted my application. Fuck them, fuck my life.
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It is true. High school students/anyone without any job experience is going to have a tough time getting a job in this economy. Fact is many students even after graduating from college with a degree are having to move back home because they can't support themselves.
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I work with mexicans on a daily basis. I do the exact same job as they do on occasion...
*logic processing* *GRINDING OF GEARS* *MODEM SOUNDS*
so that means... my job sucks... and is beneath me? Shit, id do just about anything for $11 (current wage) an hour. hell, id even think about doing leo at that price.
also, i know several people with higher up degrees from reputable collages who have shit jobs. soon to be uncle has some sort of masters degree in...lol i cant remember what all of a sudden, but yeah, he had to work at home depot for 5 months. i know there is a person with a phd in history working at our local library as a librarian. I work with a bar certified lawyer who does quality control for what we make. jobs arnt easy to come by. most of it is having an 'in' someplace.
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It is true. High school students/anyone without any job experience is going to have a tough time getting a job in this economy. Fact is many students even after graduating from college with a degree are having to move back home because they can't support themselves.
Some of those students, I'm willing to feel sorry for. Others would have had that same problem no matter what the economy looked like. Seriously, anytime I hear a story about somebody with some ridiculous amount of debt(like $100k+) who got their degree in something like journalism, or teaching, or art, I just want to send them a strongly worded e-mail about how it's their own damn fault for being such an idiot. Look, I know lots of people have always dreamed of studying at Harvard, or Northwestern, or some other expensive private school, but if you're paying a ridiculous tuition rate for a degree that historically is not known for being high paying, stop complaining.
Not to mention the fact that I'm amazed at people who couldn't figure out how to get any money toward their college education outside of loans. Sure, not everyone can be lucky enough to graduate from high school with a suit made out of full tuition offers, but once you get to college, it's incredibly easy to get some amount of money if you apply yourself and do the work necessary to get good grades. And don't get me started on the grad school factor: WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GO TO GRAD SCHOOL FOR THAT SAME SHITTY DEGREE!?!?!? AREN'T YOU ALREADY IN ENOUGH DEBT AS IT IS, OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO SEE IF YOU CAN GET YOUR DEBT INTO THE MILLIONS!?!?!? Fucking idiots, they get absolutely none of my symphony.
Also, brian, history is another one of those aforementioned degrees that does not historically pay well(unless you decide to become a lawyer or enter politics, which is really just taking a shit on that degree anyway). In addition, law is a field that seems to be getting saturated with new people since a) it's seen socially as a good career, b) it's not very difficult to get into, c) it's something to do with that damn journalism degree that you got from Cornell.
/rant
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Most students don't go to Harvard, college tuition is on the rise. Unfortunately, if you don't have a degree, it is also harder to get a decent job. Even a degree doesn't guarantee a job though. Best thing to do is get a degree in a field that is going to have openings soon. I do agree journalism, liberal arts and so forth don't have much use.
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Not just Harvard and the Ivies, Mia; just as bad are the people who complain after they decided to go to college out-of-state. Out-of-state tuition for public universities is ridiculous and I'm amazed anytime I meet someone from out-of-state who came to my university without any scholarships.
For example, where I am at now, the tuition is 10k a semester as opposed to 4k for in-state students, so right off the bat, there's a 48k difference after four years(assuming you graduate in four years). When I was being recruited, my top two choices were giving me offers of a little over 100k over 4 years. Approximately 25k a year for college if I decided to come here without any scholarships whatsoever, and I've met plenty of people from other states who came here with little to no money. Granted, some came from families that could afford that, but regardless, that's still a large sum for a public university. So there, not only are you coming out with a weak degree, but you don't even get the prestige of saying that you came from a Harvard or a Yale or another university of that brand magnitude.
So yeah, I'll agree that tuition is on the rise, but in-state tuition at a decent public university is really not that bad. If I had decided to stay in Kentucky for college, I would have benefited from a program that would have provided me with 10k extra over 4 years on top of any scholarships I received, and that was available to anybody. Seriously, 2.5k(in my case, the numbers fluctuate a little; 10k is the max) based on your grades in high school and your ACT/SAT score. Tuition for what I consider to be the four main Kentucky universities(UK, UL, WKU, EKU) is between 3.5-4.7k a semester. Depending on how well you did in high school, you can easily knock about a thousand bucks off that sticker price, and like I said before, getting scholarships really isn't as tough as it sounds if you apply yourself in class and work hard. I agree that college isn't cheap, but paying off a 20-30k loan in a reasonable number of years is feasible(especially if you work part-time while in college) and is not absurd when you take into effect the benefits you will receive from getting a degree, and makes a lot more sense than amassing a 100k-200k loan, regardless of the degree.
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I'm probably a bad example becuase I could pay the debt off if I chose to, but the interest rate is so low, I put the money elsewhere. But, I got about $21k per year in grant money for a school which cost on average over my 4 years $30k per year. I got a fellowship for grad school which paid for all my classes and a stipend for living expenses and books. I also had that stipened supplemented with either another job or additional reasearch money. I never would have gone if they were not paying for it. I finished grad school 10 years ago, and I still have better than $30k in college debt.
I've also been through two extended periods of being unemployed or underemployed, so I know what it's like to struggle to find work. During the first one, I had to put the loans in forebearance. So, during that time, and the time when i was in school the unsubsidized loans collected interest. Just during school, my Plus loans collected $8k in interest. So, I do have sympathy for those who have actually applied themselves and still cant' find work. If you can't make your load payments, call them. It's in both of your best interests if you can make the payments, and they all have programs to help you not default.
You may also have to be willing to move somewhere that is not your "ideal" location to find work at least temporarily. I had to pick up and move half way across the country 6 years ago to finally get working a real job again. I'd been working shit jobs for a year and a half, just so I could pay my bills and not have to move away from where I was. But, here came a point when reality set in and that if I wanted to resume my chosen career, I was going to have to make a move. My dad just this past weekend moved nearly 1000 miles away just to find work. The jobs are out there, you just have to be willing to find them. If you are not willing to make a few sacrificies, I have a hard time feeling bad for you.
Grads are pretty damn important too, unfortunately. I never gave a damn about my grades for the first two years of college. But when the opportunity to go to grad school came up, I had to bust my ass just to even be considered for entry. Even though I had a prof willing to pay for it, I still had to be able to be accepted. I had to go through a special review process because my gpa fell below an imaginary cut off line. Fortunately I was able to get in, but it still follows you around. During my first period of unemployment I applied for a position that read like my resume. I went through the phone interview and at the end, the guys tells me I am nearly perfect for the position and have all the experience they are looking for.. oh, btw, what was your gpa. I tell him and he says, oh sorry, they only consider those with a 3.35 or better. Now, i had a 3.72 in grad school and made deans list my senior year, and was "perfect" for the job, but that didnt matter because of a few bad grades in my gen ed classes nearly 10 years before.
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Actually out of state can be cheaper. My university is part of the Midwest Exchange program, if you have a higher GPA (3.0 +) or anything higher than a C average, you're likely to be granted instate tuition which is rather low at my university compared to more expensive universities (University of Minnesota). Depending on what field you're going into though, your program can matter.
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What's your university, Mia? That's pretty cool and I do know that UofL had a program where they offered in-state tuition to people from certain counties of Indiana, but I figured that was because they were right on the border so doing that gave them the ability to more easily recruit students from right across the river.
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Well I should clarify. Midwest Exchange doesn't relate to your GPA. I think it is North Dakota, South Dakota, Illinois, Wisconsin and a few others. The program allows you to attend an university in those states (public university though) at the instate tuition. If you have a high GPA (which for this university, tends to be a 3rd choice university but it is a decent university, you can get a decent degree here), which is easily above 3.0 you can even get lower than instate tuition. My university has many international students (they work to pay off the tuition). I qualified for instate tuition, even though I applied from Virginia and the high achiever tuition.
It is Saint Cloud State University. Terrible sports team but decent enough education.
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Now that I think about it, I remember hearing that people who are from Washington D.C. get in-state tuition to any university in the country. On the other hand, they had to live in Washington D.C.
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I do agree journalism, liberal arts and so forth don't have much use.
You mean I won't get a job with my degree in African American Lesbian Studies? :horrified:
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Probably not. :P
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Wait, you got a degree in watching porn!?
*rushes to change major*
Forget getting my undergrad and masters in 4 years, I want what he got!
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to quote PCU, "You can major in Gameboy, if you know how to bullshit"
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If you think my wage is bad (and it's not a flat rate an hour -- I get monthly bonuses depending on store performance), the 270ish store managers get about $100,000 a year.