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kim dotcom
« on: August 30, 2016, 09:18:24 pm »
in the off chance you guys care. Kim dotcom's extradition trial is being live streamed to youtube.

https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcoms-extradition-hearing-will-be-live-streamed-on-youtube-160830/
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 10:26:52 pm »
Yes, but I'm still trying to figure out WHEN it'll be.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 06:09:39 pm »
sorry,


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw7XhgJhQDHkVrJjiw4CONg/live

and to be fair, its boring as hell, but its still important. This trial dictates weather or not the US gets to go into other countrys and arrest people for breaking US laws outside of the US.

oh, and it starts at 10am kiwi time, so 5pm cybernations time.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2016, 07:06:15 pm »
What's this all about?
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 07:52:11 pm »
kim dotcom owned megaupload before the FBI took it over. He has been hanging out in new Zealand for like 5 years now.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 07:53:11 pm »
oy. which laws is he accused of breaking? is it something that physically harms people or is it about money


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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 11:13:08 pm »
From the little bit that I watched, it's about copyright.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 06:52:01 pm »
yeah, its all copyright claims. The US claims he made millions off assisting users with copyright infringement. (he totally did btw.) though he claims its the users fault and not his. Problem is there are all sorts of internal emails of megaupload staff talking about piracy and they apparently had an internal search service and several emails talking of paying pirates for posting stuff to megaupload.

https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-what-made-it-a-rogue-site-worthy-of-destruction-120120/
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 07:54:38 pm »
Was he in the US during this? What country is he a citizen of?


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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 08:30:31 pm »
He's Finnish/German, and residing in New Zealand.
HE ISN'T AMERICAN AT ALL.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2016, 09:58:21 pm »
He's Finnish/German, and residing in New Zealand.
HE ISN'T AMERICAN AT ALL.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 06:23:57 pm »
from what ive read hes kind of a jerk too. but that doesn't really mean that the US can drag him off to prison for a crime that wasnt a crime where he was just because it happened on the internet.
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 06:29:01 pm »
from what ive read hes kind of a jerk too. but that doesn't really mean that the US can drag him off to prison for a crime that wasnt a crime where he was just because it happened on the internet.

none of his servers were in the US?
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 11:20:05 pm »
yes, lots and lots.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/01/explainer-how-can-the-us-seize-a-hong-kong-site-like-megaupload/

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he indictment makes these points repeatedly. Megaupload wasn't just some Hong Kong enterprise that "happened" to be used by US residents. The site had leased more than 1,000 servers in North America alone; 525 were at Carpathia Hosting and were located in Virginia. Between 2007 and 2010, Carpathia received $13 million from Megaupload. (Cogent Communications in the US supplied a few additional US servers and bandwidth.)
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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2016, 02:24:10 am »
from what ive read hes kind of a jerk too. but that doesn't really mean that the US can drag him off to prison for a crime that wasnt a crime where he was just because it happened on the internet.

sounds like a job for the cyber police


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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2016, 09:56:52 am »
yes, lots and lots.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/01/explainer-how-can-the-us-seize-a-hong-kong-site-like-megaupload/

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he indictment makes these points repeatedly. Megaupload wasn't just some Hong Kong enterprise that "happened" to be used by US residents. The site had leased more than 1,000 servers in North America alone; 525 were at Carpathia Hosting and were located in Virginia. Between 2007 and 2010, Carpathia received $13 million from Megaupload. (Cogent Communications in the US supplied a few additional US servers and bandwidth.)

well now that was stupid.
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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2016, 11:37:48 am »
Not really. Virginia is the capital of the internet and has the most datacenters in the world. When you make up a percentage of the bandwidth on the Internet, it becomes a necessity.

No one would have cared about Megaupload had it been hosted somewhere with shit bandwidth.

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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2016, 11:39:07 am »
aka all the other filesharing sites that coincidentally everyone hated

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Re: kim dotcom
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2016, 01:46:51 pm »
kenny made me smarter today


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