The U.S. Air Force

[John Walker]

Should I join it when its time. I mean before college. I think I should because I have no money to pay for it and the air force would pay all of my tutition. I want opinions and any info you know of the airforce.


If someone has been in the air force please let me know about it there.



Also do not give me the website to the air force, I already know it.

[Thunder Strike]

Join the New Zealand Airforce instead.

[John Walker]

Haha no offense but U.S. is the best out there and I'll never give that chance up.

[Leo]

I guess it all depends on your opinion of it and whether you feel it is the right place for you.

[Arsenal 10]

Do you like planes?

[Fake from State Jarm]

my brother served in the army for 10 years after graduating from west point

and they wouldn't pay for his college when he tried to leave

so I think he joined the navy

he's a member of this alliance, 'OFudd'

if he's still even playing

[Dontasemebro]

oshit I didnt know Ofudd was ur brudder. That's awesome.

Anyway I usually hear good things about people in the air force.

Here's what you should do first: Take some flying lessons, ask them to pull "4 G's", then try to do it yourself. If you can do that, maybe you can cut it as a pilot. I say maybe because they'll ask for 7-9 G's.

[nIveK oGre]

lol @ dontasemebro

Air Force is alright and you don't have to be a pilot.  Go talk to a recruiter if you're serious.  You can have them pay for your school up front with the promise that you'll serve after you graduate.  Ask the recruiter about it if you're interested in that.

[John Walker]

But remeber the Air Force isn't always for pilots, it's for engineers also. And I think that's what I'm going to be.

[Thunder Strike]

How relevant is college for engineers in the Airforce?
If you don't need it I don't see much point in going to college and you might as well just head straight into the Airforce.

[John Walker]

The Air Force seems great and has wonderful benefits it's just I have other goals in life and I plan to pursue with all of them. But just staying in the Air Force may be a good option.

[Thunder Strike]

Can you still achieve these other goals while you are in the Airforce or do they exclude eachother?

Also goals change  mine seem to change at least once a year.

[John Walker]

Well before everything I never thought of going into the military. I was recently thinking about it and figured it would be good for me if I joined because it would help in so many ways. I guess what I'm saying is they exclude each other.

[Leo]

I guess it depends on these other goals. My dad was in the navy for years. Along the way, he worked for a hostage negotiation firm in Miami, and eventually retired from the navy as a Commander and moved into the foreign service. Eventually, they sent him and us here to Kentucky to help with the construction and operation of a new government building. We liked the area, so he moved into Civil Service and we've been here for about 9 years now.

I'm saying this to show you that you can achieve goals if you know what you're doing. My dad graduated from VMI before joining the navy, and he is a very smart man who could do a lot of different things. He's even a deacon in the Catholic Church. So obviously, he has found a way to pursue all of his goals, plus I have two older brothers, one who has his degree and is now in China, and another who is about to graduate and is in Finland while I have another year left before college. The future can change, and hopefully when you get there, you'll be proud. Just listen to others and think for yourself at the same time,, learning that perfect balance to life may be the most important thing you can ever learn.

[John Walker]

Tell your dad he's a good man.

[DrunkWino]

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never trust a recruiter for any branch of the military.

/not saying don't serve, just get everything in writing and read ever bit of it three times before signing.
//hell, bring the papers home and ask your parents to go through it with you.

[C-zom]

If you want to get honest feedback about the military, try to find a vet or two to talk to. The older, the better. I've talked with some WW2 vets in my day and I've never heard more interesting stories and facts. I even talked to one who was in the Luftwaffe. Apparently, the battle of britain was an intentional failure cause they thought Sealion was oxshit.

Or so he said. ANYWAY, as for the US military its shit honesty wise. 50% chance you won't get after-service benefits like college money. 70% mortality from sore ass syndrome if you join the airforce.

etc etc

[Leo]

DW has a good idea. Writing is good, but try to get the degree first, service second since the government can screw you without your consent. That said, as long as you can handle the military, it might be one of the most reliable jobs during a recession.

[Dingoman]

My sisters boyfriend is a test pilot for the Air Force, He makes about $80,000 a year.

[Rorick]

Well, John, My dad was an EA, an engineer assistant, when he was in the OANG, Ohio Air National Guard. He says that you wouldn't be an actual engineer until you became an officer, but you'd still learn basic engineering from tech school. After TS, you'd be sent where you were needed, be it civil engineering, building inspection, or the like. He says to basicly look at the AF sight to read up on what you'd do as an EA. Though he told me that the EA jobs are becoming limited, as they are being contracted out more and more to civilians.

He says you best bet for college, and becoming an engineer would be to commit to ROTC, as they would pay for college, but you'd have to commit to the AF afterwords for a number of years. You'd go into the AF as an officer though.

As for college funding, the OANG funds 100% of your college, though that's all my dad can vouch for.