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« on: March 31, 2009, 09:19:50 pm »
Most people have the idea that a firearm such as a berret 92fs pistol or the ak-74 are weapons easily able to make death, but most people haven’t even ever touched a gun before as well most people will never buy a gun, because they feel that they can always buy one if they would really need it, but the truth is that a weapon with zeroed in sights, and loaded magazines is a luxury to an experienced shooter so therefore you can’t just go to the store then come out with a ready to go killing machine.

Sighting in a gun – zeroing in the sights is unique to each kind of gun, and it takes time to git-er-done. A scope is easy to do, but mounting a scope is 3/4ths of the battle, because the scope needs to be mounted absolutely perfectly, and this takes more than what the eye can see.

Iron sights are left untouched by many shooters, and so a lot of people that shoot surplus cheap rifles just shoot for fun missing on purpose just to feel the recoil, because there’s no easy way to go about sighting them not to mention that it’s very difficult to aim with them so it’s practically impossible for any new shooter to zero in their iron sights until they’re become an experienced shooter.

Firing at 100 yards, and beyond is not something that’s not even tackled by everyone especially anyone using a gun with iron sights, because the rectiles are actually larger then the target so it takes the ability to proportion which means going beyond the ability to see in order to mark the target. Getting a group or just hitting the target alone is a huge accomplishment for any new shooter, and an experienced shooter doesn’t have a picnic even with their experience, because I myself can’t even begin to describe how still I have to hold, but to give an idea here’s something to visualize it by: breathe in, and then out.

The little movement that breath caused probably cost at least 12 MOA – 1 ft off at 100 yards if you actually managed to be completely still not to mention that the stillness must be maintained as muscles are clenched to keep the gun still as the trigger is being pulled very slowly. The tiniest but of movement will cause a lose group, and a good chance of a complete miss.

 In World War 2, it was noted that the bolt action infield rifle was much more capable of hitting a target at 200 yards and further than the mg-42 big motherfucking bad ass machine after one minute of shooting so let be know after reading this that full automatic firing is useless against distant targets. To add to this the newest version of the M16 has had its full automatic firing option for the fire selector taken off, and it can only fire in burst or semi automatic now. It's not more deadly than ever, because of shooters not being jerk offs with automatic firepower.

Shooting at 200 yards, and beyond that requires a professional ability for stillness and becoming in a moment of zen. Plus before even beginning to shoot the weapon’s sight must be adjusted for the range, because the oxet will become affected by falling down.

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To compensate with a scope the shooter must offset the rectile above by how much the oxet will fall or if the shooter has an iron sight the back sight will have an adjuster with numbers to go by for the distance of the target. It’s a luxury to know the distance, have 0 wind, and no moisture in the air otherwise the shot will involve much luck. That’s just parts of shooting a rifle, and loading is another terrible side.

While loading may be just plopping some cartridges into a magazine, and then putting it into the mag receiver these things don’t always happen so reliably or smoothly, because magazines don’t just go into their groves willingly. In fact anyone without a unique respect for mechanisms will probably end up getting the magazine stuck in the receiver or end up having to make several attempts to get it to click which sound means that it’s in.

Every time I take a guest with me to the range I’m constantly interrupted to help them fix stuck magazines or I need to refamiliarize them with how to know the magazine is in correctly, because even if the new shooter gets the magazine in the gun right they still half the time don’t push it in far enough to enter the chamber yet, however; still far enough though so that it doesn’t fall out of the gun where it gets clamped in just before it’s in place.

Guns are simple, but are still mechanical devices. Every new shooter is as good as a stupid chimp with one in their hands if they have no practice with firearms, and the only other person who I ever saw properly use my rifles without a problem is my cousin who spent 10+ years in the boy scouts. By the way he has achievement badges for using a variety of firearms.

Now for the grand point: if you think that it’s wise to not own a useful for tactical applications, because you don’t see a need one therefore don’t have one then you’re an idiot, because you’ve been forewarned: it takes years or intensive training to become efficient with a gun, and if you shall ever find yourself needing one then it is to late.  Be always prepared, and by taking up a new hobby: gun ownership.


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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 09:39:51 pm »
Wall of text about guns = I skip it.

Moral of story: Guns kill. Killing is bad.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 11:07:59 pm »
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Wall of text about guns = I skip it.

Moral of story: Guns kill. Killing is bad.

but awesome. Thus, guns are awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 11:36:04 pm »
Killing is awesome?

The hippy in me feels the need to give you a daisy.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 04:19:12 pm »
i have a gun in my room, and not one has it kill

wow

youre very easy to contradict

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 11:48:56 pm »
Did you?

Sorry, I missed it.

Do you mean to say guns do not kill? If so, you are using it wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 11:51:03 pm »
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Do you mean to say guns do not kill? If so, you are using it wrong.

I have yet to see a gun get up, load itself, and shoot someone.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 12:11:38 am »
Ah yes, of course. How could I have been so foolish..

>_>

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 10:06:05 am »
Perhaps you shouldn't own a gun if that confused you.

I'm sorrry

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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 11:39:12 am »
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Do you mean to say guns do not kill? If so, you are using it wrong.

I have yet to see a gun get up, load itself, and shoot someone.

I have also yet to see a crazed person pissed because someone is picking on them about their poor English, stand up, put a shell in their finger and start killing people with it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 07:43:37 pm »
When will I learn, arguing with gun crazy Americans about guns is about as pointful as trying to convince a dutch football fan that their team was actually outplayed and it wasn't the ref's fault. >_>
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 08:01:43 pm »
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Do you mean to say guns do not kill? If so, you are using it wrong.

I have yet to see a gun get up, load itself, and shoot someone.

I have also yet to see a crazed person pissed because someone is picking on them about their poor English, stand up, put a shell in their finger and start killing people with it.

Me neither, but I have seen that same crazy type mother fucker grab a knife and start killing people.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 09:23:50 pm »
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When will I learn, arguing with gun crazy Americans about guns is about as pointful as trying to convince a dutch football fan that their team was actually outplayed and it wasn't the ref's fault. >_>

But it was the ref's fault.

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2009, 09:51:00 pm »
IT WAS A FUCKING FUMBLE, HOCHULI!!! HOW THE FUCK DID YOU NOT SEE IT!!!!!!! EVERYONE ELSE DID!!! GOD FUCKING DAMN FUCKING IT!!!
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