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« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2008, 10:07:40 am »
I said the biological point of life.  We are driven to it by evolution; that's what makes sex pleasurable.  However, there is a more spiritual point to life, I just don't know what it is.  Be good?
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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2008, 11:38:39 am »
There may be no biological point of life. It's possible that life itself is a freak of nature, and that, were conditions not perfect, it could easily have never been.

Mere existence is not adequate evidence of the presence of a purpose.


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« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2008, 12:01:14 pm »
Not of a higher purpose, no.

But through what-have-you, we have evolved and the purpose of those millions of years is us.  Everyone alive and their posterity.  For us to create a posterity.

I'm not denying or proposing a spiritual purpose to life, only saying that we have been engineered through natural selection to reproduce.
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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2008, 03:11:44 pm »
godhood is the biological point of life. life inherently wills itself to overcome anything that would limit it; thus life inherently strives for godhood, for perfection.


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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2008, 05:53:46 pm »
Way I see it, we'll never find the true 'Meaning of Life', because everyone has their own version... Unless you cheat and use a dictionary:P
I just reckon the best way to think of this is - what do you want your own life to mean?

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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2008, 11:38:07 pm »
I've never understood this whole argument, why does there have to be a meaning to life? I prefer to just live. And even if there is, what do you do when you find out what it is?

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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2008, 08:45:01 am »
At this point in time, I have found absolutely no meaning to any life. Any life.

I believe any person who attempts to assign his own meaning to life is lying to himself and everyone else, whether he knows it or not.

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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2008, 09:31:25 am »
that anything chooses to go on living reflects that they find it meaningful. anyone who says there is no meaning, and goes on living, is lying. even the search for absolute meaning is a meaning of a kind.


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« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2008, 09:03:04 pm »
Well of course there are reasons that I don't just end my life now, but I'm referring to the 'reason' why life came to be in the first place. I always thought that it was sort of obsolete unless you believed in god/s or fate.

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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2008, 10:00:54 pm »
the point of life is to bang as many chicks as possible before u die.

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« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2008, 09:13:08 am »
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the point of life is to bang as many chicks as possible before u die.
so explain your lack of suicide


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« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2008, 12:16:37 am »
Procreate. Await further instructions.

In all seriousness, I figure the meaning of my own life is to be the best person that I possibly can be. I don't have to win a Nobel Prize or land on the moon in order for my life to have meaning. As long as I go through life making the best of it that I possibly can, by helping others and adding a little light to the lives of the people around me, I'll die a happy man.

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« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2008, 02:14:02 am »
if i ever win the nobel prize i'll be tempted to get a vagina if i dont have one already just so i can make a porno of me getting off on it.

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« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2008, 02:43:02 pm »
point of life.................boobies lots of boobies

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« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2008, 12:12:12 pm »
There is no point in life except to reproduce and pass on your genes.

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« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2008, 12:57:19 pm »
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« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2008, 02:57:04 am »
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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2008, 10:03:08 am »
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There is no point in life except to reproduce and pass on your genes.
i.e. to evolve.

and the purpose of evolution is to overcome all limitations exerted upon life (it's an innate purpose)

i.e. to attain godhood

life is a self preserving and propagating order. a transcendent being is the ultimate life form; it is made of pure order and is in synchronicity with pure order and all absolute truth that exists.

all order is to some extent self preserving and propagating; and existence itself is a kind of order, therefore everything that exists is alive, albeit to a greatly varying degree.

even what we think of as chaos, cannot exist outside of the context of order, because to behave typically in any way, i.e. a way that can be described, including chaotically, is a kind of order. there is no absolute chaos. paradoxically, I can conceptualize and describe something as absolute chaos, but having conceptualized it and described it, i have given it order. so let me say it metaphorically; absolute chaos (and all chaos), both in this description and in all of reality, is only a shadow of a shadow, an implication that is always misleading, an optical illusion in the mind's eye. even my description of 'it' is false because 'it' by definition can't be described so any description of 'it' renders itself a lie, which is fitting. the only place it exists is in the perceptions that misbelieve in it (by believing it exists outside of perception). it's an illusion created by divergence of perceptions - by omniscience no longer being common understanding. (but especially, by not knowing yourself; however since we are all part of reality, we'd have to know all of reality to really know ourselves). so science is good. the more we know, the more we know ourselves. until we know ourselves completely, we will have a divergent perception of ourselves, and this perception will manufacture the illusion of chaos, keeping the lie alive. but not really since chaos can't live. it's more like, we would be keeping the experiment of semiscience (not knowing everything) alive (which will go on for as long as it can anyway but we don't know how long that is so no point in dragging it out unnecessarily).

'godhood' is just our primitive but instinctual term recognizing the last stage of evolution; whether there are gods or not, it's what we all inherently reach for by the nature of our being. we are part of order, and order wants to reorder everything. it may take millions of years, it may not, we might get help from already existent 'gods', we may not, but it is the inevitable direction of all life.

god i hope i dont sound like a scientologist douchebag. a lot of religions get bits and parts right, but then they turn into an excuse to stop asking questions and stop learning. i am not crossing my fingers hoping to be omniscient in my life time... but just like we have, our knowledge evolves over the generations. along with the cultural ability to accept that knowledge and not ignore it. and everyone plays a part in that process...

what we think of as a chaotic world is really just a long mathematical equation that has not yet worked itself out, illustrating what would happen if order were allowed to separate from itself. would it come back in agreement with itself willingly? is order inherently able to reorient itself in an apparent vacuum of order? nature of the universe: greatest science project EVAR


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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2008, 08:54:20 pm »
The point in life relies mostly in what we believe about freedom and determinism.
Even though, it is possible to say that life is pointless in both ways, just because if we have a real freedom of choice (the point in freedom, at least in one concept of freedom, that consists in freedom as absence of constraint), then morals are always pure choice (Sartre), and life goes only on that planning. The objects are only subjective and point of life is reducted to nothing.
In the other hand, detrminism can provide, in one particular sense, a point in life, in the goal of determinism. But what about the determined to not reach the goal? They have point in life? What about determinism as a darwinian social structure? It has a goal? I think it's impossible to say about determinism that it provides a real point in life.
But, in fact, a second concept of freedom can provide  limited point in life, again, marked by choice. Isaiah Berlin refers to it in a well-known article, seeing this freedom as a power to determine ourselves. The point in life here resides in what we decide to be.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2008, 12:59:36 am »
there is no absolute freedom (just like there is no absolute chaos for a similar reason). if you say 'this is chaos, unordered' you have shown that it has some order, by the nature of being confined to a term and described. chaos will always be chaos, and that limits its chaoticness. and just as chaos is limited by it's own identity, we are limited by our own identities. we can't be free from ourselves, we can't be 'not us.' at least, without ceasing to be, at all. and even then we 'once were' and can be defined and limited, or the we that once was can be.

life is inherently deterministic by the nature of existing at all, but also everything, the more deterministic it is, and the more it exerts power to survive and explore its own purpose, the more alive it is considered to be. and the more it explores its purpose, the more it shapes itself and gives itself purpose to the end of creating purpose. we are the engines of determinism, but in reality so is everything else.

when people say freedom they understand the meaning of the word, loosely, but the way they use it usually means, free from everyone else but myself. failure to realize that you can't be free of yourself often leads to confusion when thinking about determinism, because people think that, just because they don't really understand themselves or know themselves completely, there can be no definitive 'self_value' which could play a deterministic part in the scheme of things. I dont know myself so I cannot possibly be known to some greater intrinsic purpose. I dont trust myself so I can't be trusted.

It's my belief that part of the point of things is, well to find the point of things and to realize the extent to which you determine the point of things, and to what extent you don't. this ends up being a flowing balance between absolute freedom and absolute determinism (which cannot exist except within an individual). otherwise known as love <3


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