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Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:20:06 pm »
In my scenario it pretty much plays out the same except a couple exceptions.
1. The Luftwaffe wins the battle of France and Britain, annihilating the RAF.
2. Germany wins the battles of Stalingrad, Kursk and invades Leningrad, scoring a victory. the USSR surrenders.
3. Germany throws everything west, launches operation sea lion, England gets crushed.
4. German scientists get a working nuke in 1944, nukes New York and Washington DC, the United States surrenders to Germany and Japan.

How is the world different today? How would an Axis victory change our history since 1947 and our world today?
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2014, 01:03:49 pm »
This is a spam topic btw and I'm bored :p

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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 01:15:17 pm »
Hearts of Iron 3 players will tell you you'd need to do more than that :v
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 06:19:20 pm »
Hearts of Iron 3 players will tell you you'd need to do more than that :v
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also, to OP: Germany could, with some insanely lucky breaks, win the war with the USSR (it'd probably require Japan tbh and a much easier Balkans campaign). But they'd never manage Sea Lion. England itself would never fall. And the US would beat them to the bomb. Germany was a decade away at best.

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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2014, 03:38:10 am »
Hearts of Iron 3 players will tell you you'd need to do more than that :v
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also, to OP: Germany could, with some insanely lucky breaks, win the war with the USSR (it'd probably require Japan tbh and a much easier Balkans campaign). But they'd never manage Sea Lion. England itself would never fall. And the US would beat them to the bomb. Germany was a decade away at best.

in the scenario, Einstein (The project head of project trinity) is born in Germany, and invents the bomb there. Rather than being born in the US, Einstein's family stays in Germany, he's born there and is inducted into the NAZI party as a scientist. Von Braun also completes the vengeance 10 project, giving Germany the world's first Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, the V10 ICBM aka the New York Model. Without Einstein, the US never invents the bomb, Basically a reversal of the real situation. Ofcourse this hinges on the Luftwaffe managing to mass produce the ME-109 jet fighter and eradicating the RAF in the battle of Britain, and dealing the US Army Air Corp a rather significant defeat in the airborne battle of France. RAF and USAF lose = no bomber missions over central Germany. Ofcourse there's still that nasty soviet airforce. They have hitting power but not long range fighters to escort bombers. Given the USSR was defensive, their fighters were intercept/air superiority fighters, they weren't long range escort fighters.

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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2014, 10:44:05 am »
Einstein was born in Germany, but he was Jewish so even if he stayed they would have just killed him anyways dude

Also Robert Oppenheimer had more to do with actually developing a nuclear weapon tbh
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 01:18:54 pm »
I was asking what a axis dominated world would be like....instead of NATO being the world's dominant power bloc, the axis fills the role today that NATO does.
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2015, 08:28:54 am »
The Me-109 was a prop fighter, not a jet. Britain could have fallen, since they were so ill prepared at the start of the war, but the USSR would have been beyond Germany's ability to beat.

Also, although Einstein was a Jew, they might not have gone the route of exterminating the Jews (which happened mostly at the end of the war when Germany was most desperate), if a Jew had given them the bomb. But Germany was very far from the bomb - the Manhattan project cost about 10% of the US GDP throughout the war years - Germany's economy was not big enough to sustain that level of investment while also having to hold down a continent.

Germany's best case was to take France the way they did, unite the Germanic peoples, federate with the Croatians and Nordicans, and subcontract the destruction of Warsaw to the Poles themselves via Tywin Lannister. As for Russia, they should have targeted their distilleries aggressively, and and reversed every Russian reversal that came their way.

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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2015, 12:19:58 pm »
I'll toss it up a little, Buck Turgidson is commander in chief all German Ground, air and naval forces, all fronts from day 1 of the war :p
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Re: Axis victory in world war 2 alternate history.
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